DougB
Active Member
She only won due to Stephen Carter, the master of divide, conquer, annoy then run.
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haltcatchfire
Senior Member
It’s still a hockey arena. Work that was done for the rink, most of the seating, most of the box suites and a lot of the below the scenes like locker room, training, medical in simplistic terms just rotates 90 degrees. Then some elements like the Stampede Trail side restaurants and team store get reused. Washroom and concessions in some instances don’t need new layout from scratch. They just move to the benefit of the concourse levels that were constrained by the previous tighter site.
Then everything between the seating bowl and the roadway gets reworked. New roof design. New parkade layout. New service accesses. New concourse layouts.
They could easily retain the exterior finish intention in just a new massing form. That would reduce architectural costs and time by some %. Negligible amounts maybe, hard to say from my mouse hole.
I don’t know how far detailed drawings/engineering actually got on the last iteration there but surely a lot of leg work to determine verticality, structural spans, and not just a plan.
However if it’s known for certain that it’ll be a full fresh start with a new team then ignore the above.
Cowtown
Senior Member
Her win was more of timing and opportunity. At the start of the campaigning she didn't have much traction at all, but she had some name recognition and Farkas was the candidate who stood out. As time went on she picked up all the 'anyone but Farkas' votes. Literally every person I know who voted for her voted strategically because they didn't want Farkas in.
darwink
Senior Member
They built that opportunity for Gondek. Kept other people out of the viability game. It was masterful, but Farkas' COVID votes did him in.
doughflow
New Member
Speaking of Jeromy.. following his "charity image rehabilitation walking tour", I see he's back commenting on local politics now.
Only a matter of time before he transitions to political pundit and then to Mayoral candidate.
Only a matter of time before he transitions to political pundit and then to Mayoral candidate.
O-tac
Active Member
Speaking of Farkas he’s calling out this deal and says that Smith may have miscalculated since his campaign polling showed a majority of Calgarians opposed that much taxpayer money supporting the Flames.
Mountain Man
Senior Member
The old Cowboy Hat Arena render someone on SSP did a years back is making it's way around on social media right now, most people seem to think it's real and there actually seems to be a lot of support for it! haha
Ramsayite
Active Member
Is it just me or did the green line station get moved in this map? It's supposed to be a block north, with the line coming in parallel to the main line across the elbow river and only tunneling southbound after stampede trail, right?
So does this plan make substantial changes to the alignment, or did whoever made this map? Just make a mistake?
Cyric
Active Member
They did a change to the alignment a while back where the tunnel is now on 11th and it turns north by the bus barns before corssing the river:
https://www.calgary.ca/green-line/green-line-map.html
https://www.calgary.ca/green-line/green-line-map.html
CalgaryTiger
Senior Member
I see this morning that Notley has come out against-ish the deal. Says there's hidden costs. She's not wrong, it seems the city foots the bill for any overages. Could a provincial election turn into a plebiscite for the calgary arena? Whoever is advising Notley, should've told her to give a non-committal answer. UCP could hammer her as anti-calgary and trying to buy votes. When really UCP are buying votes. Wild next month ahead.
DougB
Active Member
I still don't think it will impact the election beyond as a distraction.
The NDP needs to offer something other than regurgitating past statements by Smith or her candidates. I'm waiting for the NDP "revelation" of some UCP candidate's 2007 Facebook post as a high school student as "proof" that the UCP harbors extremists, racists, misogynists, whatever
darwink
Senior Member
Agree on the arena.
Doesn't seem they're doing 'past statements' this time around. Statements are circulating but if they're the source they're doing a good job seeding them with others rather than using an MLA press conference every day to do it.
YourBoy007
Active Member
This isn't the right thread for a lefty circlejerk.
artvandelay
Active Member
As anticipated, there is going to be a complete restart on the design. Potentially with a completely new team at the helm.
That 4-8 timeline for design/permitting is bananas though, especially considering they still need to hire a development manager.
Transcribed courtesy topfiverecords on CP - this is from John Bean on Flames Talk:
That 4-8 timeline for design/permitting is bananas though, especially considering they still need to hire a development manager.
Transcribed courtesy topfiverecords on CP - this is from John Bean on Flames Talk:
