Scotia Place | 36.85m | 11s | CSEC | HOK

[DiscoStu]

Feels like CAA ICON already have their hand in the cookie jar.

I'm not that familiar with them, so I took a quick look on their website. Some decent projects they've been involved with, but this quote on the their home page caught my eye.

"The easiest $20 million you’ll make is the $20 million you don’t spend on your arena. If you want to optimize your chances of saving that money, call CAA ICON."
Gary Bettman - Commissioner, National Hockey League

If there's ever a mantra that will get you Murray Edwards' business, this is it.

 

[trtcttc]

Feels like CAA ICON already have their hand in the cookie jar.

CAA ICON doesn't design stadiums though. Whoever it is I just hope it's not another white round sphere. Both Populous and Dialog have designed those (Videotron in Quebec City and Rogers Place in Edmonton). Hopefully we get something similar to the Ottawa renders.

 

[UrbanWarrior]

We’d better get something at least on par with Ottawa’s, given that this is going to be the most expensive hockey arena ever built!

 

[trtcttc]

This may be a stupid question but who makes the revenue on non-CSEC events? Or does their lease cover the entire 35 year duration and all events at the Centre?

 

[darwink]

This may be a stupid question but who makes the revenue on non-CSEC events? Or does their lease cover the entire 35 year duration and all events at the Centre?

Just like the Saddledome post 1994 it is most likely a headlease - CSEC acts as if they're an owner, except in very defined circumstances.

 

[CalgaryTiger]

CAA ICON doesn't design stadiums

Not exactly, but they do play a big part:

Feasibility and Planning | CAA ICON

www.caaicon.com

 

[haltcatchfire]

I would guess they stick with HOK. Some of the architectural work completed already would be a head start on the redesign. I don't see them starting from scratch.

 

[artvandelay]

It will be a complete restart with another public RFP. The site and program has fundamentally changed from the previous iteration, not much design work will be salvageable.

Doing preliminary design work doesn't necessarily help design firms win open RFPs - in fact, it often works against them.

 

[CalgaryTiger]

I would guess they stick with HOK. Some of the architectural work completed already would be a head start on the redesign. I don't see them starting from scratch.

Is it not a completely different design or do you mean the fact that if you look at the old layout: All that changes is it turns 90 degrees, gets a community rink where the plaza was and a mixed use tower where the parking structure was?

 

[CBBarnett]

Hey we made the front page on Field of Schemes! International press is one of the benefits of having a shiny new publicly funded arena after all - already recouping that investment:

https://www.fieldofschemes.com/2023...-16-months-after-saying-300m-was-their-limit/

 

[O-tac]

If Smith wins and we're gonna get screwed anyways hopefully it is nicer than the previous HP OfficeJet design. If NDP wins, then fuck Murray Edwards and CSEC. I don't want to spend even more money on tickets to see a team that can't even make the playoffs, or when it does always exits after the first round.

 

[Mountain Man]

Unfortunately, the NDP would be crazy to go against this now.

 

[O-tac]

Unfortunately, the NDP would be crazy to go against this now.

Edwards could still have a hissy fit and walk away if the NDP were to take away the land rights or something adjacent.

 

[DougB]

Unfortunately, the NDP would be crazy to go against this now.

I doubt either party's position on the deal would affect the election results as Calgarians are divided on the issue. Replacing a bad deal with an even worse one likely will not play well for the Mayor or City Council.

 

[Mountain Man]

I think Gondek is a one and done mayor anyway, she's not very popular.