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100%. My son goes to a French immersion school in the inner city and it's so busy that they had to take out grade 6 level and move to another school just to keep up with the demand.
As someone who works in the education system, I can guarantee that no new inner city schools are going to be built in the next 25 years. Governments build schools at a glacial pace. Proactively responding to demographic numbers would be shocking. Look at all the suburban schools that are at capacity with a waitlist immediately after opening.

The inner city does have some interesting things going for it school wise. There is a huge rise in alternative programs (french immersion, spanish bilingual, science, arts based, TLC) and these tend to be located in the inner city because of extra space in older schools. The demand for these spaces exceeds capacity. The CBE awards these spaces based students living in the neighborhoods first before opening it up to other neighborhoods. Also, the high school that every student wants to go to is Western (because it is one of the most academic public schools in Alberta). It is extremely difficult to get into Western without an address in its catchment area. Many students I have taught have had parents rent an apartment downtown (they won't move in), just for the address and the ability to get into Western.
 

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Oh wow. Well I don't mean to cause a general freakout, but I found the project page by the same people who designed the underpasses, poppy plaza, and the war memorial.



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Is there a design for the new Jaipur Bridge yet?
This looks to be the new design.
 

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Interesting to watch this one, if it goes we might see the density along Mission Road explode as I believe the other land not yet redeveloped land is already owned by only a few individuals along the road.
Any thoughts on this architect? I found their website hard to use


Proposed Designations
  • Multi-Residential - High Density Low Rise District (M-H1)
Address: Multiple Properties
File Number: LOC2019-0151
Applicant: CASOLA KOPPE
 
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Oh wow. Well I don't mean to cause a general freakout, but I found the project page by the same people who designed the underpasses, poppy plaza, and the war memorial.



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Not sure this is the latest design. While some elements seem similar, it doesn't match what is shown on The City's Engage website:
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That design looks to provide even less uses than the current configuration. Sure the area is looking tired but it’s not worth spending that kind of money to end up with a lawn adjacent to a giant lawn (Prince’s Island) and a large barren plaza with few active adjacent uses.

The playground and the wading pool is actually really well used in the summer and would now be replaced with something less functional but looks more upscale.
 

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I don't think the city should do anything with Eau Claire plaza for the near future. Too many moving variables with the Green Line and the eventual market redevelopment. As Silence&motion mentioned in the Eau Claire thread, it's best to leave it and plan all of them together.

That design looks to provide even less uses than the current configuration. Sure the area is looking tired but it’s not worth spending that kind of money to end up with a lawn adjacent to a giant lawn (Prince’s Island) and a large barren plaza with few active adjacent uses.
The playground and the wading pool is actually really well used in the summer and would now be replaced with something less functional but looks more upscale.
Agreed. It might look a bit dated but still works. Might as well leave it until there is a good overall plan.
 

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With the market re-do on the shelf, and a possible change to the green line station, an overall plan is inevitable. They can still re-do the Jaipur Bridge in the meantime, it needs to be widened one way or another.
 

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The three projects have been planned in conjunction, the Riverwalk Promenade, the Jaipur Bridge and the Plaza. The reason they are being done now is they are flood prevention projects, being paid for by the Province for the most part. We were fortuante enough that Urban Design at the City got involved (best they can) and made sure that a flood prevention project also was "nice". Stage 2 of riverwalk (Eau Claire Plaza to 1st Street SE) is going to be constructed next year. Same with the Jaipur bridge. These projects are necessary to provide 1/200 year flood protection for downtown. So, since they are going forward, might as well plan the plaza as well, since they all tie in together . I think portions of the new plaza will be built as well, but not sure the full extent.
 

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