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I remember discussing about the metro ford project early last year when Curtis Block was announced by One Properties. Someone here had said that the Metro Ford was renovated or extended its lease hence One Properties would not be moving forward anytime soon with the project. Would be great if they did, even if it was in phases.
 
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There were two other renderings for the spot beside Lang's. The last one was kind of wonky looking, with multiple styles and materials...awkward looking... it was on this site at one time, but the image may have been linked back to Arlington's site and now they've changed it to the boutique hotel.

Here's the first iteration of the design for that location
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There was a second rendering that came out not that long ago and was similar to the first iteration, but a couple of storeys taller, and more angles.


You might be thinking of the rendering for 17 ave and 5 st...there's a thai restaurant take-out restaurant on that parcel for now.
 
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The new design is a major improvement over that sterile looking mega block.

There were two other renderings for the spot beside Lang's. The last one was kind of wonky looking, with multiple styles and materials...awkward looking... it was on this site at one time, but the image may have been linked back to Arlington's site and now they've changed it to the boutique hotel.

Here's the first iteration of the design for that location
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There was a second rendering that came out not that long ago and was similar to the first iteration, but a couple of storeys taller, and more angles.
 

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meh not impressed.. Looks like 4 rectangular blocks notched here and there and 'paint-bucketing' of monotonous and repetitive design of the glazing and balconies. Some massing accents and articulation of its main forms rather than varying balcony slabs would make this better. The fortress podium also looks really over powering with 1 material even though 9ave currently isnt that pedestrian friendly at that end of the core. Only thing I like are the wide sidewalks and a notch somewhere near the middle where it does open up. I have never heard of these guys but a massive block like that, there has to be a better way to achieve these design goals where each tower can be more of its own identity. Also consider the Yaya Jan project a stone throw away where if the part of the site facing closest to that project can have a more open design treatment to interplay between the two sites.
 

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meh not impressed.. Looks like 4 rectangular blocks notched here and there and 'paint-bucketing' of monotonous and repetitive design of the glazing and balconies. Some massing accents and articulation of its main forms rather than varying balcony slabs would make this better. The fortress podium also looks really over powering with 1 material even though 9ave currently isnt that pedestrian friendly at that end of the core. Only thing I like are the wide sidewalks and a notch somewhere near the middle where it does open up. I have never heard of these guys but a massive block like that, there has to be a better way to achieve these design goals where each tower can be more of its own identity. Also consider the Yaya Jan project a stone throw away where if the part of the site facing closest to that project can have a more open design treatment to interplay between the two sites.
I sort of gotta disagree with you on that one. Yea I too think 4 of the same identical buildings with such a large size would slightly be overkill but I feel if they do execute it at-least 90% of what the renderings are showing, it'll end up looking amazing. The podium is slightly concerning but 3 or 4 of these high density, well designed projects around the downtown/beltline isn't that bad but if it becomes a trend then it would become concerning seeing we have a few more proposals already out there. I also doubt they'd execute it in one go, most likely in phases like West Village towers, so hopefully some redesigning for the later phased towers. But this is the picture that sold it for me:
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If sure this had nothing to do with it:
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"With negative year-over-year consumer traffic for Q3 2018, our financial results for the quarter fell well below our expectations," said Jim Gabel, President and Chief Executive Officer of Roots. "We faced significant headwinds due to three main factors: a weaker brand voice in the absence of a large marketing campaign, unseasonably warm fall weather that persisted through approximately two-thirds of the quarter, and lapping one-time Canada 150-related sales recorded in Q3 2017. "

Selling, general and administrative expenses
Selling, general and administrative expenses for Q3 2018 were $42.5 million, up 4.1% compared to $40.8 million in Q3 2017. The year-over-year increase was primarily driven by incremental costs to support a larger retail store footprint as Roots added five net-new corporate retail stores since Q3 2017, as well as strategic investments to drive the long-term growth of the business. Year-over-year, marketing expense increased $0.3 million, the minimum wage increase in Ontario and Alberta accounted for an additional $0.5 million and public company costs were an incremental $0.5 million.
 

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If sure this had nothing to do with it:
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"With negative year-over-year consumer traffic for Q3 2018, our financial results for the quarter fell well below our expectations," said Jim Gabel, President and Chief Executive Officer of Roots. "We faced significant headwinds due to three main factors: a weaker brand voice in the absence of a large marketing campaign, unseasonably warm fall weather that persisted through approximately two-thirds of the quarter, and lapping one-time Canada 150-related sales recorded in Q3 2017. "

Selling, general and administrative expenses
Selling, general and administrative expenses for Q3 2018 were $42.5 million, up 4.1% compared to $40.8 million in Q3 2017. The year-over-year increase was primarily driven by incremental costs to support a larger retail store footprint as Roots added five net-new corporate retail stores since Q3 2017, as well as strategic investments to drive the long-term growth of the business. Year-over-year, marketing expense increased $0.3 million, the minimum wage increase in Ontario and Alberta accounted for an additional $0.5 million and public company costs were an incremental $0.5 million.
I think you posted this on the wrong forum. So someone can shift it over
But regarding the Roots store clousure, Retail Insider covered a story on business taxes in the core. Looks like they have since edited out their interview with Roots. What it said was Roots wasn't hiding the fact the city was to blame for their closure when they contacted their headquarters in Toronto. The property taxes were too high so they said it wasn't worth it to locate there. Im sure sales played a part in the decision but I think at a certain point they said screw it, not worth leasing where we're barely breaking even with our expenses. Heres the story by Retail Insider:
Its a cool site where they cover exclusive news on retail across Canada. Sometimes you get lead information regarding developments in Calgary.
 

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One properties has slightly different renderings for the same project:


Are these guys the same as WAM?
What are the odds this is being built? I'd be happy to see a project of this size go up in Calgary, regardless which of the two designs will be used. It'll be a great population boost to the city core and the massive retail section will no doubt give the streets significantly more pedestrian use. Also, the design isn't amazing but it's not that bad either so it's better to at least get something rather than nothing at all.
 

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I have had discussions with people in ONE Properties. They still intend to move forward with their 9th Ave project, however their focus is currently on the Curtis Block. It was hinted, however don't take this as anything official, that 2020 would be when more gets moving on 9th Ave.
 

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I have had discussions with people in ONE Properties. They still intend to move forward with their 9th Ave project, however their focus is currently on the Curtis Block. It was hinted, however don't take this as anything official, that 2020 would be when more gets moving on 9th Ave.
You just let the cat out of the bag and I am officially hyped as hell for 2020.
 

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2020 isn’t that far off, nice to see projects keep rolling along.
I have had discussions with people in ONE Properties. They still intend to move forward with their 9th Ave project, however their focus is currently on the Curtis Block. It was hinted, however don't take this as anything official, that 2020 would be when more gets moving on 9th Ave.
 

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