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Urban Development and Proposals Discussion

I'm not a fan of giving individual owners tax breaks to update the public space outside of their buildings. It leads to individual customization than a cohesive look for the public realm. This is also what the downtown BIA is for. They get a piece of the tax revenues for use on community improvements.

There's no incentive that will encourage buildings owner to undergo multi-million dollar retrofits to introduce more street facing retail in the district except a high demand for space that leases well above current rates.
 
Just did a calculation of Red Deer's future metropolitan area with the 2016 Federal Census numbers, this includes:

City of Red Deer - 100 418
Red Deer County - 19 541
Town of Sylvan Lake - 14 816
City of Lacombe - 13 057
Lacombe County - 10 343
Town of Blackfalds - 9 328
Town of Innisfail - 7 847
Town of Penhold - 3 277
Town of Bowden - 1 240
Town of Eckville - 1 125
Town of Bentley - 1 078
Village of Delburne - 892
Village of Alix - 734
Village of Clive - 715
Village of Elnora - 298

For a total of - 181 709 people across an exorbitant 6727 km2, which would make it the 7th largest CMA/CA in the country by area, 23rd largest in population, larger than Abbotsford. The CMA would have a population density of 27/km2, comparable to Kamloops (17.4/km2), and Lethbridge (39.5/km2) and other cities with large hinterlands/catchment areas.

Did the same calculation for Grande Prairie's future metropolitan area, this includes:

City of Grande Prairie - 68 556
Grande Prairie County - 22 303
Town of Sexsmith - 2 620
Town of Beaverlodge - 2 465
Town of Wembley - 1 516
Village of Hythe - 827

For a total of - 98 278 with around 14% growth since 2011. The area is 5 802 km2 for a population density of 17/km2.


Did population projections to 2031 for the 7 largest CMA/CAs in the province as well, assuming Foothills joins the Calgary CMA, Red Deer acquires Lacombe and Red Deer Counties, and Grande Prairie acquires Grande Prairie County:

Calgary - 1 464 000 - 1 970 000 (2%/year)
Edmonton - 1 321 000 - 1 778 000 (2%/year)
Red Deer - 182 000 - 245 000 (2%/year)
Lethbridge - 117 000 - 157 000 (2%/year)
Grande Prairie - 98 000 - 142 000 (2.5%/year)
Fort McMurray - 73 000 - 91 000 (1.5%/year)
Medicine Hat - 77 000 - 89 000 (1%/year)

All of these growth rates are significantly less than our current 15-year average, so this is more of a medium projection scenario.
 
UrbanWarrior said:
Just did a calculation of Red Deer's future metropolitan area with the 2016 Federal Census numbers, this includes:

City of Red Deer - 100 418
Red Deer County - 19 541
Town of Sylvan Lake - 14 816
City of Lacombe - 13 057
Lacombe County - 10 343
Town of Blackfalds - 9 328
Town of Innisfail - 7 847
Town of Penhold - 3 277
Town of Bowden - 1 240
Town of Eckville - 1 125
Town of Bentley - 1 078
Village of Delburne - 892
Village of Alix - 734
Village of Clive - 715
Village of Elnora - 298

For a total of - 181 709 people across an exorbitant 6727 km2, which would make it the 7th largest CMA/CA in the country by area, 23rd largest in population, larger than Abbotsford. The CMA would have a population density of 27/km2, comparable to Kamloops (17.4/km2), and Lethbridge (39.5/km2) and other cities with large hinterlands/catchment areas.

Did the same calculation for Grande Prairie's future metropolitan area, this includes:

City of Grande Prairie - 68 556
Grande Prairie County - 22 303
Town of Sexsmith - 2 620
Town of Beaverlodge - 2 465
Town of Wembley - 1 516
Village of Hythe - 827

For a total of - 98 278 with around 14% growth since 2011. The area is 5 802 km2 for a population density of 17/km2.


Did population projections to 2031 for the 7 largest CMA/CAs in the province as well, assuming Foothills joins the Calgary CMA, Red Deer acquires Lacombe and Red Deer Counties, and Grande Prairie acquires Grande Prairie County:

Calgary - 1 464 000 - 1 970 000 (2%/year)
Edmonton - 1 321 000 - 1 778 000 (2%/year)
Red Deer - 182 000 - 245 000 (2%/year)
Lethbridge - 117 000 - 157 000 (2%/year)
Grande Prairie - 98 000 - 142 000 (2.5%/year)
Fort McMurray - 73 000 - 91 000 (1.5%/year)
Medicine Hat - 77 000 - 89 000 (1%/year)

All of these growth rates are significantly less than our current 15-year average, so this is more of a medium projection scenario.
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What do the populations look like based on a continuation of our 15 year average growth?
 
From the province, http://finance.alberta.ca/aboutalberta/osi/demographics/Population-Projections/index.html
Red Deer's economic region has 216,610 people. 2031 medium projection is 276,390. Economic regions are different though.

Medium growth
Alberta as a whole: 5,288,540

Economic regions (larger than CMAs)
Lethbridge-Medicine Hat 352,755
Camrose-Drumheller 224,035
Calgary 2,041,220
Banff-Jasper-Rocky Mountain House 97,315
Red Deer 276,390
Edmonton 1,821,510
Athabasca-Grande Prairie-Peace River 321,195
Wood Buffalo-Cold Lake 163,080
 
UrbanWarrior said:
Just did a calculation of Red Deer's future metropolitan area with the 2016 Federal Census numbers, this includes:

City of Red Deer - 100 418
Red Deer County - 19 541
Town of Sylvan Lake - 14 816
City of Lacombe - 13 057
Lacombe County - 10 343
Town of Blackfalds - 9 328
Town of Innisfail - 7 847
Town of Penhold - 3 277
Town of Bowden - 1 240
Town of Eckville - 1 125
Town of Bentley - 1 078
Village of Delburne - 892
Village of Alix - 734
Village of Clive - 715
Village of Elnora - 298

For a total of - 181 709 people across an exorbitant 6727 km2, which would make it the 7th largest CMA/CA in the country by area, 23rd largest in population, larger than Abbotsford. The CMA would have a population density of 27/km2, comparable to Kamloops (17.4/km2), and Lethbridge (39.5/km2) and other cities with large hinterlands/catchment areas.

Did the same calculation for Grande Prairie's future metropolitan area, this includes:

City of Grande Prairie - 68 556
Grande Prairie County - 22 303
Town of Sexsmith - 2 620
Town of Beaverlodge - 2 465
Town of Wembley - 1 516
Village of Hythe - 827

For a total of - 98 278 with around 14% growth since 2011. The area is 5 802 km2 for a population density of 17/km2.


Did population projections to 2031 for the 7 largest CMA/CAs in the province as well, assuming Foothills joins the Calgary CMA, Red Deer acquires Lacombe and Red Deer Counties, and Grande Prairie acquires Grande Prairie County:

Calgary - 1 464 000 - 1 970 000 (2%/year)
Edmonton - 1 321 000 - 1 778 000 (2%/year)
Red Deer - 182 000 - 245 000 (2%/year)
Lethbridge - 117 000 - 157 000 (2%/year)
Grande Prairie - 98 000 - 142 000 (2.5%/year)
Fort McMurray - 73 000 - 91 000 (1.5%/year)
Medicine Hat - 77 000 - 89 000 (1%/year)

All of these growth rates are significantly less than our current 15-year average, so this is more of a medium projection scenario.
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Do you have the raw numbers for Calgary over the last 5 to 10 years? I'm interested in seeing their medium projecting over the next 15 years. Most of the growth will come from migration. Percentage increases is better for natural growth.
 
Airdrie census #'s released this week, grew at 4.98% or 3080 people to grow to 64,922. If this is the pace that is maintained by the next federal census Airdrie will be just under 80,000 by then.

I think with this growth Airdrie will be surpassing both Medecine Hat and Grande Prairie if just taking the cities into account.
 
Rollerstud98 said:
Airdrie census #'s released this week, grew at 4.98% or 3080 people to grow to 64,922. If this is the pace that is maintained by the next federal census Airdrie will be just under 80,000 by then.

I think with this growth Airdrie will be surpassing both Medecine Hat and Grande Prairie if just taking the cities into account.
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Man, am I out of the loop, I had no idea Airdrie was already over 60K. A couple of months my girlfriend asked me what the population of Airdrie was and I told her it was around 40K lol. Welcome to the group @Rollerstud98
 
Rollerstud98 said:
Airdrie census #'s released this week, grew at 4.98% or 3080 people to grow to 64,922. If this is the pace that is maintained by the next federal census Airdrie will be just under 80,000 by then.

I think with this growth Airdrie will be surpassing both Medecine Hat and Grande Prairie if just taking the cities into account.
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They very well may have already surpassed Medicine Hat and Grande Prairie. They were both only around 63 000 in the 2016 Federal Census, and not growing anywhere nearly as fast as Airdrie. It's conceivable that they already have been surpassed or they will be by next year. Also, St. Albert will be surpassed quite soon as well, as their growth is virtually negligible compared to Airdrie's.
 
Also, as of today, the 3 medium-sized urban areas of the Calgary CMA have generated a combined growth of 4 894 over the past year. This includes Airdrie - 64 922 (3 080), Cochrane - 26 320 (1 198), and Chestermere - 20 331 (616). This does not include the rest of the CMA (Calgary, Rocky View County, Crossfield, Tsuu T'ina, Irricana, Beiseker). This growth bodes well for the development of the metropolitan area as a whole.
 
UrbanWarrior said:
Also, as of today, the 3 medium-sized urban areas of the Calgary CMA have generated a combined growth of 4 894 over the past year. This includes Airdrie - 64 922 (3 080), Cochrane - 26 320 (1 198), and Chestermere - 20 331 (616). This does not include the rest of the CMA (Calgary, Rocky View County, Crossfield, Tsuu T'ina, Irricana, Beiseker). This growth bodes well for the development of the metropolitan area as a whole.
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Wow that Airdrie figure is mind boggling. I haven't had a chance to catch up on the whole thread yet. Has Okotoks released it's figures yet?
 
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