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Roads, Highways & Infrastructure

darwink said:
I believe a change had to be made in the municipal charter to make it so that at every intersection they wouldn't need 30 or 40 kph signs, as a particular act assigned 50 kph as the limit on all unsigned streets iirc.
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That sounds about right.
 
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I could live with the change. I usually don't do more than 40 in a res zone anyway. My understanding is that any road with lanes or painted lines is not part of this change correct?
Surrealplaces said:
Looks like the city is looking to change the speed limit on residential roads down to 30km/h The idea has been around for a while, but is gaining traction. I don't really have any issue with it...I see too many cars ripping through residential streets these days. Safety first.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calg...-speed-limit-30-kilometres-per-hour-1.4809664

30 km/h could be new default speed limit in Calgary
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I'd be good with 30 or 40 on side streets. Anything that is a feeder road in the community should be 50. If you can see a painted center line, speed = 50km/hr, if not, 30 or 40 km/hr. Yes, cars would have to slow down if the road is snow covered. The city would have to paint a few more roads with center lines, mostly in a few of the older neighborhoods where a road functionally acts as a feeder road yet has no line at this point. I doubt we will get anything this sensible if the city decides to craft a new speed rule.
 
ferreth said:
I'd be good with 30 or 40 on side streets. Anything that is a feeder road in the community should be 50. If you can see a painted center line, speed = 50km/hr, if not, 30 or 40 km/hr. Yes, cars would have to slow down if the road is snow covered. The city would have to paint a few more roads with center lines, mostly in a few of the older neighborhoods where a road functionally acts as a feeder road yet has no line at this point. I doubt we will get anything this sensible if the city decides to craft a new speed rule.
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I heard the same thing about roads with painted lines not being part of it, or at least main feeder roads. It really needs to be more on quiet side streets where kids play, or people normally j-walk without much thought as it's not normally busy.
 
Hi,
Lets see, 30 KPH on City Streets? TNX but NO TNX. as I see it, 50 KPH is a Standard on most City Roads/Streets. I'll stick with what is Tried & True Thank You.
I don't drive due to Medical but I came away with the feelings that most drivers are quite happy with the Status Quoe etc To tell drivers you NOW have to drive at
30 KPH will leave a lot of drivers Ticked Off, Big Time. School/Play Ground Zones is one thing, Yes I can Agree, but I'll back driver 1st choice because I was a
Professional Driver by Choice (Courier). Yes I used a lot Side Streets. Why? Because at 50 KPH on a Side St, I did better time because I made it my Business to Know
My Areas I worked in. So Go Ahead and Reduced Speeds down to 30 KPH Yet also B prepared to Expect a LOT of Ticked Off Drivers and yes they will all B Your
Neighbors. OK I am Retired now due to Medical but you want Reduced Speeds etc, Ask a Professional Driver who drives for a living. The answers might B quite the
Surprise.

Tnx,
Operater.
 
I think we are on a path to 40 kph. I wonder if the compromise will also involve removing a bunch of playground/school zones.
 
darwink said:
I think we are on a path to 40 kph. I wonder if the compromise will also involve removing a bunch of playground/school zones.
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That's what it's looking more like. For the record I don't mind the slower speed... even at 30km/h as I normally drive back streets at around that speed anyway.
I don't necessarily agree with Farrell and Carra's reasoning for it though. It seems most serious accidents and fatalities are at busier intersections. I saw somewhere that only pedestrian 8% of accidents are on residential streets....not sure what percentage of those are serious or fatal.
 
Surrealplaces said:
That's what it's looking more like. For the record I don't mind the slower speed... even at 30km/h as I normally drive back streets at around that speed anyway.
I don't necessarily agree with Farrell and Carra's reasoning for it though. It seems most serious accidents and fatalities are at busier intersections. I saw somewhere that only pedestrian 8% of accidents are on residential streets....not sure what percentage of those are serious or fatal.
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Less obviously, institutionalizing 30km/h speeds will also take an arrow out of the quiver of the transportation engineering folks that push for wider roads, wider lanes and wider turn radiis all over the place; explicitly and implicitly in public debates, engineering practices/cultures, and design standards. If 30km/h becomes ingrained in the way we think about streets, pressure for designing wider and faster roads are reduced everywhere. Most of our wide roads in the 1960s - 2010s suburbs could have been designed much narrower and more efficiently if all those involved thought less about speed and throughput. It's a small - but meaningful - effort to reduce the weight we place on throughput and automotive capacity and more on neighbourhoods and the people that live in them.
 
Hi
Passing Thoughts. the City is to have a Vote of Sorts on the Olympics shortly. Lets have a 2nd Vote on Reduced Speed Limits. See what really Wins.
Might not like the results but Its the Drivers/Voters who will make that Choice, NOT those in Politics

Tnx,
Operater.
 
darwink said:
I think we are on a path to 40 kph. I wonder if the compromise will also involve removing a bunch of playground/school zones.
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They'd probably win over a bunch of people just by revising the 9:30pm end time for playground zones and reinstating school zones.
 
Interested in the historical network of Calgary and Alberta roads?

The U of A's Peel Prairie Provinces collection has hundreds of high res scans of topographical and road maps from the 19teens through the 1950s. I've just been using them to identify stage coach trails and the first 'highways' both of which pre-date even the 2A.

Go here:https://library.ucalgary.ca/c.php?g=255407&p=2961891 and click on Sectionals.kmz

Or just download this:http://libdata.ucalgary.ca/get.php?f...Sectionals.kmz

It will load overlay tiles over most of AB, SK, MB, and some of BC
Each one has links to high res scans of road/topographical maps from the 19teens, 20s, and sometimes the 40s and 50s

eg

1955
http://libdata.ucalgary.ca/public/ma...gs/N029950.jpg

1926
http://libdata.ucalgary.ca/public/ma...gs/N029949.jpg

1926
http://libdata.ucalgary.ca/public/ma...gs/N029947.jpg

1914
http://libdata.ucalgary.ca/public/ma...gs/N029946.jpg
 
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