Mountain Man
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Well, Calgary is at a much higher elevation, so Stantec is far below Brookfield! haha
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Albertasaurus
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Stantec Tower is taller, but I would not trade it for Telus Sky, The Bow, or even Bankers Hall or Eighth Avenue Place. It's only noteworthy for its height.
DiscoStu
Active Member
While I agree with your sentiment, I'd trade it for Eighth Avenue Place. To me it's an equally soulless design, so you might as well take the height.
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Albertasaurus
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That's fair. I personally prefer EAP to Stantec Tower, which I think is an exceptionally bland tower. I would make the trade for Stantec if they threw in the Marriott next door though.
DiscoStu
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Throw in your 2024 1st rounder and you got yourself a deal.
maestro
Senior Member
Stantec is a snooze fest and Edmonton has many parking lots to fill. I'd do the trade for a package of filler buildings.
Edmonton is looking backwards and there's a taller tower being built in suburban Canada right now. Burnaby will never match the quality of skyscrapers in Calgary. It will overtake in numbers by 2030.
Edmonton is looking backwards and there's a taller tower being built in suburban Canada right now. Burnaby will never match the quality of skyscrapers in Calgary. It will overtake in numbers by 2030.
Chinese_T
Active Member
Have you guys seen VMC in Vaughan, Square One Mississauga, Golden Mile, or Scarborough Town Centre?
VMC - 30,000 Units proposed
Square One Mississauga - 20,000 Units proposed
Golden Mile Toronto - 35,000 Units proposed in 75 towers
Scarborough Town Centre - 30,000 Units proposed in 70 towers
Is Midtown Station too much to ask for now?
Albertasaurus
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Wow, that is simply crazy. I do think that once someone "rips off the band-aid" and starts building some decent TOD in Calgary, we'll start to see a more steady flow of towers - although not on the scale of those above, obviously...
maestro
Senior Member
Toronto has many proposals. Getting them all built would take divine intervention
Any of these plans is enough housing for a small town with a sprinkle of retail and other commercial around transit as low as light rail in a right of way. The province calls these transit oriented communities instead of TODs to convince ratepayers these projects are actual communities.
Any of these plans is enough housing for a small town with a sprinkle of retail and other commercial around transit as low as light rail in a right of way. The province calls these transit oriented communities instead of TODs to convince ratepayers these projects are actual communities.
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Albertasaurus
Active Member
Yup. I actually read the other day that the condo market in TO is struggling and there are quite a few stalled projects there. Anecdotally of course.
Nawads
New Member
Yeah, projects passing the proposal stage have slowed a lot as the presale market is not as strong in TO right now ( at least compared to what it was). There are still tons of new proposals though, I figure most developers want to try and get the zoning and such approved so that when they feel the market is better they can turn the switch to start much easier.
Tarsus
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Agree. Ask me 15 years ago about height mattering and I would have been all over it, but these I couldn’t care less.
In Edmonton’s case it doesn’t even make sense given the number of empty lots. They should be doing buildings 5-10 stories high.
Chinook Arch
Active Member
Edmonton has the tallest building, but for overall height in general its butt is kicked. One tall building doesn’t really count.
The point is moot though. Nobody cares about height in 2024.
maestro
Senior Member
Height remains a feature in any local conversation from my observations. The broader international conversation has shifted to a super tall threshold and interest in lists of city tallest by number of skyscrapers have declined by the sheer number of skyscrapers built in the last 10 years. Less than 2% taller is a technicality that is exclusively on display in these lists. 2% taller is a non factor in skyline or building images.
Calgary's skyline is undeniably more impressive in every key category than Edmonton by a Herculean margin
Calgary's skyline is undeniably more impressive in every key category than Edmonton by a Herculean margin
Albertasaurus
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I'm old enough to remember when only NYC, Chicago and Houston had supertalls. If anything, the boom in skyscraper construction around the world has led to skyscrapers not being such a big deal anymore. that said, Calgary's skyline is impressive, well balanced and very aesthetically pleasing especially considering our city size. Skyscraper fans in a lot of US cities in our size range (thinking of places like Columbus, KC, Indianapolis, Sacramento, Nashville etc) would be thrilled to have a skyline like ours.