Enzo | 27m | 6s | Arlington Street | DAAS

[Golfing guy]

Drove by yesterday. Love the brick. The sign is a great touch. Store fronts are off the street just enough to allow for little patios.
Great addition to the block.

 

[CalgaryTiger]

Excited to see what businesses will go in these CRUs...

 

[Woosh]

Excited to see what businesses will go in these CRUs...

They just announced the tenants actually.

It's going to be:

- Shawarma place that changes owners every 5 months
- Luxury Salon that exclusively serves customers who live south of Prospect Ave
- Vape store with student specials
- Second Shawarma place

 

[Mountain Man]

No banks?

 

[DiscoStu]

I was expecting 2 banks and 3 Shoppers Drug Marts.

 

[gsunnyg]

What! No Cannabis store!??

They just announced the tenants actually.

It's going to be:

- Shawarma place that changes owners every 5 months
- Luxury Salon that exclusively serves customers who live south of Prospect Ave
- Vape store with student specials
- Second Shawarma place

 

[haltcatchfire]

I was expecting 2 banks and 3 Shoppers Drug Marts.

and a Subway.

 

[Spring2008]

They just announced the tenants actually.

It's going to be:

- Shawarma place that changes owners every 5 months
- Luxury Salon that exclusively serves customers who live south of Prospect Ave
- Vape store with student specials
- Second Shawarma place

Luckily it looks like you were joking. Couple signs up already and they’re working on two other retail bays.

Nearby it looks like the bmo redevelopment may be starting as it’s now leased. Looks like they’re retaining more of the original bmo building design with some facade/window changes and extending the building over the adjacent parking lot. I like this sleek design better than these older renders here:
https://www.atlasdevco.com/wp-conte...estaurant-and-Retail-Concepts_22-11-21_V1.pdf

 

[CallmeCatbread]

Luckily it looks like you were joking. Couple signs up already and they’re working on two other retail bays. Nearby it looks like the bmo redevelopment may be starting as it’s now leased.

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I actually didn't realize until now how massive the setback is above the first floor. God setbacks are such a plague. Especially on main streets. You just know some random complained about shadows and forced them to move the whole bloody thing back

 

[badc0ffee]

Could allow for a 2nd floor patio though?

 

[YYCALGARY]

I actually didn't realize until now how massive the setback is above the first floor. God setbacks are such a plague. Especially on main streets. You just know some random complained about shadows and forced them to move the whole bloody thing back

It’s part of the 17th Avenue Plan. No building on the south side of the street can shadow the sidewalk on the north side. I’m not opposed to this - parks and patios would otherwise suffer. Also, Tompkins park is directly across the street and needs sun between the equinoxes. It’s sunlight worth protecting IMO.

 

[shermanator]

I love the setback. Keep the part that interacts with the pedestrians more human scaled.

 

[CallmeCatbread]

It's a six storey building. I swear some people have the weirdest hangups about "human scale" whatever the hell that even means

 

[CBBarnett]

I actually didn't realize until now how massive the setback is above the first floor. God setbacks are such a plague. Especially on main streets. You just know some random complained about shadows and forced them to move the whole bloody thing back

For me, it's really the first floor setbacks done improperly that are the plague. Those have all sorts of adverse consequences, especially in transitioning areas that are trying to become more walkable and urban, but can't as there's this ginormous right-of-way setback that can't be used for anything. The result is buildings pushed awkwardly too far from the street, while simultaneously not any wider sidewalks or better frontage amenities. This isn't the case here - setbacks seem fine for the context and high level of walking traffic.

Above the ground floor, this is a pretty good case for setbacks. North sidewalk of 17th is the most valuable main street real estate and busiest walking route in the city. It's smart to acknowledge that and resist too much height directly adjacent to avoid too many shadows.

I used to be all about big density on the main streets, but my views have become more nuanced over time. I see a much stronger rationale for the reverse of conventional main street thinking - height and density should be just off the main street, put thousands of homes in the spot where they are immediately accessible to the walkable retail, but not immediately negatively impacted by the noise and traffic.

 

[Atticus]

I used to be all about big density on the main streets, but my views have become more nuanced over time. I see a much stronger rationale for the reverse of conventional main street thinking - height and density should be just off the main street, put thousands of homes in the spot where they are immediately accessible to the walkable retail, but not immediately negatively impacted by the noise and traffic.

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