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[Urb]

I've always thought those south facing CRU's should be all restaurants with large patios. Removing one row of street parking would help.

 

[Surrealplaces]

I've always thought those south facing CRU's should be all restaurants with large patios. Removing one row of street parking would help.

Would make an excellent spot for patios, and shouldn't much of an impact, after-all, it's only a measly 13-15 parking spots.

 

[CBBarnett]

Why not widen it a little? Is 16th Ave really serving much of a purpose here? My fear is they go to redo this park and give it the Olympic Plaza treatment and cut down all the trees.
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Yeah definitely agree with all above. I should have clarified, Tomkins Park is impressive in that 40 to 45m width because it includes an awesome park, and manages to squeeze in two roads. I agree with all comments on 16th Avenue. I am not convinced it needs to exist at all, but if it does it doesn't need as much parking space nor does it have to be a traditional street. Easily can take a parking lane or more.

Combine that with a redesign of the park access and curb structures, you'd end up with something like this near Berczy Park in downtown Toronto should work, just a curbless lane with minimal width to allow seamless park-to-business transitions.

Have we done any curbless streets in Calgary?

 

[Surrealplaces]

I can definitely imagine 16th gone altogether and patios on the park. I don't know if the businesses can have delivery access from the north side, but I'm assuming they can.

 

[CalgaryTiger]

I can definitely imagine 16th gone altogether and patios on the park. I don't know if the businesses can have delivery access from the north side, but I'm assuming they can.

Yes

 

[DiscoStu]

Bridgeland has a little mini-version of Tomkins Park with a side road (General Ave). It's another one that already works nicely, but would probably benefit from making it fully car-free and opening it up to patio uses.

These type of little piazza's/side streets are great. Need more of em!

 

[1875]

only good park, lets change it

 

[Joborule]

Definitely on the bandwagon of removing vehicles from 16th Ave at Tomkins Park. Along with the alley in the rear, 16th could have limited early morning access for business just like Stephen Ave.

 

[adamyyc]

Give it the "festival street" treatment that they gave the "Loop within the Loop".

 

[Beltline_B]

I would have no problem with that section of 16th Ave. going away. It’s not used for much other than parking, and could be used utilized much better

 

[shermanator]

Give it the "festival street" treatment that they gave the "Loop within the Loop".

Do half of the job really nice and leave the other half unfinished?

 

[adamyyc]

Do half of the job really nice and leave the other half unfinished?

Haha, fair! I really hope it all ends up being worth it at the end of the 2025 construction season.

 

[whatchyyc]

8 Street SW design development report

The raised intersection at 16 Avenue S.W. acknowledges the vibrant retail environment and enhances the pedestrian experience at 16 and 17 Avenue S.W. Future opportunities to extend the raised intersection throughout the length of16 Avenue S.W. will provide an improved public realm that knits the success of the retail and park to become a special place in the Beltline.

 

[outoftheice]

Is that a new report or something that's fallen into the dustbin?

 

[whatchyyc]

Is that a new report or something that's fallen into the dustbin?

November 2023, they're planning to start construction this spring on the downtown section from 3rd to 12th Ave.