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A few years of slower growth is fine by me, we can let things catch up and house/rent prices soften. The whole of Canada is going to experience the same slowdown, Calgary and Edmonton might be the only two to have decent growth due to interprovincial migration.
 
A feel good article, the only thing I have mixed emotions about is that a lot of the success is tied to oil. I don't want oil to crash, but I've been enjoying the trend of oil slowly downsizing while other industries, pick up the slack.
It's that age-old debate about the relative importance of oil and gas in our local economy. Obviously, oil and gas is a highly lucrative industry with outsized GDP and profitability when market conditions are good. But total employment in oil and gas hasn't really changed all that much in 15 years in Alberta, despite another million Albertans living here. Much of the employment spike of previous boom periods were more noticeable due to tens of billions in construction programs all happening simultaneously, in a small area, within a province with a small population. As we are well aware, it's not like downtown Calgary has many more office workers compared to 2010 despite a larger economy and a couple hundred thousand more residents.

As we've become a larger and more complex economy with a larger and more diverse population, concentrations in specific sectors will inevitably dilute the impact of similar booms that might occur - there's just so much more other stuff going on in a 5 million person province than a 3 million person province. Doesn't mean tariffs won't be brutal of course....

Looking ahead, probably illustrative to see the larger provinces of Quebec and Ontario, and Toronto and Montreal as big cities within those provinces - they have huge industrial concentrations, but as a percentage of employment and economic activity everything is muted, nothing really dominates in GDP or in employment. They've both had multiple booms and busts, cities keep on trucking and growing. Again, it's size that helps stabilize things - bigger place are naturally less dependent on individual industries due to the more diverse and at-scale needs of other sectors, even non-booming ones.
 
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A decade or so back, I remember seeing stats that showed Quebec was more dominated by aerospace than Alberta by oil and gas. Which was absolutely wild.
 
A decade or so back, I remember seeing stats that showed Quebec was more dominated by aerospace than Alberta by oil and gas. Which was absolutely wild.
That could have been the case for employment. AB is different as it also earns huge revenue off royalties and land sales.
 
It's that age-old debate about the relative importance of oil and gas in our local economy. Obviously, oil and gas is a highly lucrative industry with outsized GDP and profitability when market conditions are good. But total employment in oil and gas hasn't really changed all that much in 15 years in Alberta, despite another million Albertans living here. Much of the employment spike of previous boom periods were more noticeable due to tens of billions in construction programs all happening simultaneously, in a small area, within a province with a small population. As we are well aware, it's not like downtown Calgary has many more office workers compared to 2010 despite a larger economy and a couple hundred thousand more residents.

As we've become a larger and more complex economy with a larger and more diverse population, concentrations in specific sectors will inevitably dilute the impact of similar booms that - there's just so much more other stuff going on in a 5 million person province than a 3 million person province. Doesn't mean tariffs won't be brutal of course....

Looking ahead, probably illustrative to see the larger provinces of Quebec and Ontario, and Toronto and Montreal as big cities without those places - they have huge industrial concentrations, but as a percentage of employment and economic activity everything is muted, nothing really dominates in GDP or in employment. They've both had multiple booms and busts, cities keep on trucking and growing. Again, it's size that helps stabilize things - bigger place are naturally less dependent on individual industries due to the more diverse and at-scale needs of other sectors, even non-booming ones.
While direct employment hasn't increased, how many of our tech, construction, services jobs are related to O&G? Anecdotally, the people I know working in tech roles in Calgary are all working on climate remediation, O&G related software. That doesn't count as direct employment, but if O&G falters, there's likely a lot of downstream impacts.
I'd say in Toronto if there is a severe financial sector collapse, the impact would be huge as well. It's just that O&G goes through significantly more booms and busts than other sectors.
 
Yeah, oil's still a huge deal here. If it takes a hit, it'll ripple through more than people realize. Kinda like how Toronto’s financial mess would shake things up, but oil’s boom and bust just hit harder.
 
While direct employment hasn't increased, how many of our tech, construction, services jobs are related to O&G? Anecdotally, the people I know working in tech roles in Calgary are all working on climate remediation, O&G related software. That doesn't count as direct employment, but if O&G falters, there's likely a lot of downstream impacts.
I'd say in Toronto if there is a severe financial sector collapse, the impact would be huge as well. It's just that O&G goes through significantly more booms and busts than other sectors.
I did a deep dive on this a while ago in a different thread; the quick answer is a reasonable estimate is that as of 2021 about 7.3% of Calgary's jobs seem directly tied to oil and gas, down from more like 10% 25 years earlier. I've since played around with some updated estimates of excess workers with slightly different methodology that would reduce these estimates slightly; around 10K excess engineers rather than 12.4K for example.

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I did a deep dive on this a while ago in a different thread; the quick answer is a reasonable estimate is that as of 2021 about 7.3% of Calgary's jobs seem directly tied to oil and gas, down from more like 10% 25 years earlier. I've since played around with some updated estimates of excess workers with slightly different methodology that would reduce these estimates slightly; around 10K excess engineers rather than 12.4K for example.

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Nice analysis and interesting to look at the changes. However, I imagine these percentages still understate the impact of any O&G collapse. It ripples across the economy - less restaurant orders, less real estate transactions, less travel, etc. that would be devastating and hard to quantify.
 

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