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The above is a map of every place a driver has sent a walking Calgarian to the hospital in the past 3 years. Unsurprisingly, downtown is the major hotspot.

The thing is, you can't just focus on improving walkability where people are getting hit. You'll notice that the areas with the least amount of incidents are also the least walkable.

When things are so dangerous for pedestrians, people just don't feel safe being outside of their car.
Do you have the data going back longer? Specifically, before the blanket 30 km/h speed limit on residential streets got passed? I remember during that debate it was held up as a major win for safety, but.... were those streets dangerous to begin with? Given that all of the points (well, I haven't looked with a microscope, but probably 99% of them) on that map happen on collector or larger roads, which Council didn't change the speed limits on, well, what was the point of lowering the speeds on the other roads?
 
Do you have the data going back longer? Specifically, before the blanket 30 km/h speed limit on residential streets got passed? I remember during that debate it was held up as a major win for safety, but.... were those streets dangerous to begin with? Given that all of the points (well, I haven't looked with a microscope, but probably 99% of them) on that map happen on collector or larger roads, which Council didn't change the speed limits on, well, what was the point of lowering the speeds on the other roads?

The issue is that changing signs has little impact on the speed that people actually drive.

If we actually want to lower speeds you have to do more than change a 4 to a 3, you have to narrow roads and actually enforce the speed limit.
 
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I wonder why roads have to be so incredibly large in North America.....
 
The issue is that changing signs has little impact on the speed that people actually drive.

If we actually want to lower speeds you have to do more than change a 4 to a 3, you have to narrow roads and actually enforce the speed limit.
But that is my point, they didn't even change the number/sign on the roads that the accidents actually occur at. The whole thing was performative theatre.
 
Do you have the data going back longer? Specifically, before the blanket 30 km/h speed limit on residential streets got passed? I remember during that debate it was held up as a major win for safety, but.... were those streets dangerous to begin with? Given that all of the points (well, I haven't looked with a microscope, but probably 99% of them) on that map happen on collector or larger roads, which Council didn't change the speed limits on, well, what was the point of lowering the speeds on the other roads?
To be clear, they changed the unsigned speed limit from 50 to 40. And then slapped 50 signs up on any collector roads that weren't already signed that way.

Minimal real world results. Technically you could drive 50 kph by any house in the city not in a playground zone. Now its 40. But there's no enforcement so people can continue to do whatever the hell they want.
 
I just wanted to post some relevant snips from the recently shared public draft of the Street Manual (part of the City Building program) intended to replace the Complete Streets Policy & Guide and the roads section of the Design Guidelines for Subdivision Servicing. It's a rough draft at the moment but it says and does a lot of good things that IMO will really turn the tables for road design in Calgary, especially if the (yet unreleased) intersections and traffic calming chapters are as good as they could be.

Streets will be designed and operated using the Safe System Approach (described in 1.6), where no amount of death or serious injury is acceptable, and where protecting the most vulnerable users is the top priority.
The Safe System Approach views the transportation system holistically by addressing the interaction between the system's users, principally focusing on design to guide users to safe and appropriate behaviours. The approach acknowledges that even responsible people make mistakes when travelling. Given that mistakes are inevitable, the approach uses good design to lower the consequences of those mistakes, protecting people from death or serious injury. There is no such thing as "absolute safety," despite efforts to maintain, improve, and operate mobility facilities to the highest level that funding allows. There is risk in all mobility situations, regardless of the travel options or combination of options considered. That risk is inherent due to the variability of user behaviours, environmental conditions, and other factors over which no individual or agency has absolute control.
The City recognizes that the mobility system should be designed such that the likelihood of collisions is reduced and that, when collisions do occur, the potential for deaths should be minimized and the severity of injuries should be substantially reduced. The design approach adopted in this Street Manual reflects the Safe System Approach and addresses the inherent risks by focusing on minimizing conflicts in time and space, as well as minimizing the speed differential where conflicts remain.

For the Street Manual, the concept of Target Speed is used for Design Speed. Design Speed is the philosophy of designing for the expected 85th percentile speed of motorists. Target Speed is the speed at which the designer intends for traffic to operate and is consistent with the Posted Speed Limit (i.e., legal speed limit)
A well-designed street encourages appropriate street user behaviour, makes the desired operating speed self-explanatory, and supports the posted speed limit. In some cases, especially on longer stretches of straight roadway where there are no obvious speed or sight line constraints for operators of motor vehicles, this may require introducing traffic management elements that encourage drivers to operate at the Target Speed.
Traffic management interventions to ensure Target Speed is reinforced for straight-running streets longer than 125 m
Local Street: 30 km/h
Collector Street: 40 km/h (30 km/h in certain areas such as playgrounds and high activity areas, such as schools and neighbourhood commercial areas)
Design Speed matches Target Speed
Arterial Street: 50 km/h or 70 km/h
Target Speed plus 10 km/h for posted speed limits of 60 km/h or greater.

While the content of this Street Manual is framed as design guidelines, it is directive in nature and is not to be viewed as merely ideas or suggestions. Where a street design relates to a greenfield situation, the cross-sections and target values for design elements are to be utilized. In retrofit situations, the design guidelines are to be followed as closely as possible with the design process outlined in Section 1.9 to be followed when the cross sections cannot be incorporated as is.
If anyone wants to have a look through here's the draft Street Manual and annotated cross sections
 
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If they adopt this:

A well-designed street encourages appropriate street user behaviour, makes the desired operating speed self-explanatory, and supports the posted speed limit.

That will be huge! This large snow fall has actually traffic calmed the roads around me. Because the shoulders are gone, the road are much more narrow and on my dog walks I've noticed how much slower people are driving. Icy sections are probably a factor too but I know when I was driving I was much more alert because of the narrow right-of-way.
 
To be clear, they changed the unsigned speed limit from 50 to 40. And then slapped 50 signs up on any collector roads that weren't already signed that way.

Minimal real world results. Technically you could drive 50 kph by any house in the city not in a playground zone. Now its 40. But there's no enforcement so people can continue to do whatever the hell they want.
And from @whatchyyc the key summary:
For the Street Manual, the concept of Target Speed is used for Design Speed. Design Speed is the philosophy of designing for the expected 85th percentile speed of motorists. Target Speed is the speed at which the designer intends for traffic to operate and is consistent with the Posted Speed Limit (i.e., legal speed limit)
A well-designed street encourages appropriate street user behaviour, makes the desired operating speed self-explanatory, and supports the posted speed limit. In some cases, especially on longer stretches of straight roadway where there are no obvious speed or sight line constraints for operators of motor vehicles, this may require introducing traffic management elements that encourage drivers to operate at the Target Speed.
Traffic management interventions to ensure Target Speed is reinforced for straight-running streets longer than 125 m
Local Street: 30 km/h
Collector Street: 40 km/h (30 km/h in certain areas such as playgrounds and high activity areas, such as schools and neighbourhood commercial areas)
Design Speed matches Target Speed

This is the real revolution here - designing for those slower speeds. This is what was missing from the speed limit changes a few years ago. The speed limit changes were seen as a first, but incomplete, step to to the bigger objective of actually slowing down vehicles. It's well known that design slows vehicles, not limits - particularly if design is for a higher speed than the limit. I don't think many understand this - our roads were always designed to be faster than the limit even at 50km/h, even more so when some were dropped to 40km/h.

For example, imagine the city is rebuilding some neighbourhood streets a few locals and collectors - a project that occurs a dozen or so times across the city each year. Unless that street is targeted by some specific capital program to change the design, the rules are stick to the design manuals - build it back so 85% of traffic will go less than 50km/h. This means the city will do a ton of construction and put back the same stop signs, no new crosswalks or bump-outs, nothing - it's effectively a like-for-like, with no traffic calming considered in most situations, because the design standards tell you not to consider anything different. Spend all that time and money and all you're doing is buying another 30 years of pavement lifecycle and dangerous driver behaviour.

Now do that same random project again with updated standards. Now, you have to build to the design speed not above it. 30 or 40km/h not 50km/h plus. You also have to apply that 125m rule - that's a serious change if properly implemented. Currently we have many (most?) local, collectors and arterials with hundreds of metres or even kilometres without any design interventions to slow speeds. No stop signs, no bump-outs to improve visibility, stupid crosswalks that can't line up with the other curb because the vehicle turn radii is set to support 50km/h instead of 30km/h turning.

In many areas with above standard lane widths, you no longer have a design manual supporting their existence. That space becomes available. Take all that together and it's a huge change.

It starts to defang the shadowy black-box of street design that has been immune to public input. It makes it possible for 311s to actually work - no longer do you have to submit endless calls for a traffic study just to have it return with something equivalent to "You are wrong about the conditions in your neighbourhood. No intervention is needed on the street your kids walk to school on, as speeds are within acceptable limits on your street - average speeds are only 49km/h only 14% of people are observed to be travelling about 50km/h on your residential street. You are also not allowed to get that crosswalk you want as the design manual discourages it and stop signs will unduly slow down that traffic. Please call us back if someone is killed."

It'll be slow in practice to implement, but this is actually a huge step to design streets that are accurate livable for anyone except a car. A ray of hope out there for this stuff!
 

A four-block stretch of 20th Street S.W. was recently rejected as one of the city's next streets to drop from a speed limit of 50 kilometres an hour to 40.

Traffic on 20th Street, from 33rd Avenue to 29th Avenue S.W. was recently monitored. The city determined, among other things, that the average speed was more than 45 kilometres an hour — too fast for the city to drop the speed limit from 50 km/h.

"If we drop the speed limit by 10 kilometres an hour, that doesn't mean that people's behaviour is going to change by 10 kilometres an hour," said Tony Churchill, the city's senior leader of mobility safety.

"But some people will observe that. And so then we end up with a larger spread in speeds, which can also create speed differentials, which can create collisions," he said.

Churchill says the speed has to be consistently below the posted speed limit before a change is considered.

And there are other criteria the city considers.

The length of the roadway is taken into account and whether it has any playground zones or bus routes. The city will also consider whether traffic calming measures have been installed.


This article was a wild ride of emotions... I'll concentrate on 20th, as its a street I know well since I live in the area. I get that the road design is the issue because it allows cars to drive to 50km/hr. And maybe him mentioning the fact that there are no traffic calming measure in place means they will install some but probably not.

So, if there are no traffic calming measures how can you expect speed to be reduced to a safe level?

Also what could you actually implement to calm traffic here?

I'd also like to point out there is a bike lane on this road. How safe is it to bike where car speeds are not calmed? I know I specifically avoid this street and will ride on non-bike lane roads over this one.

Edit: I emailed my councillor on this one.
 
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A four-block stretch of 20th Street S.W. was recently rejected as one of the city's next streets to drop from a speed limit of 50 kilometres an hour to 40.

Traffic on 20th Street, from 33rd Avenue to 29th Avenue S.W. was recently monitored. The city determined, among other things, that the average speed was more than 45 kilometres an hour — too fast for the city to drop the speed limit from 50 km/h.

"If we drop the speed limit by 10 kilometres an hour, that doesn't mean that people's behaviour is going to change by 10 kilometres an hour," said Tony Churchill, the city's senior leader of mobility safety.

"But some people will observe that. And so then we end up with a larger spread in speeds, which can also create speed differentials, which can create collisions," he said.

Churchill says the speed has to be consistently below the posted speed limit before a change is considered.

And there are other criteria the city considers.

The length of the roadway is taken into account and whether it has any playground zones or bus routes. The city will also consider whether traffic calming measures have been installed.


This article was a wild ride of emotions... I'll concentrate on 20th, as its a street I know well since I live in the area. I get that the road design is the issue because it allows cars to drive to 50km/hr. And maybe him mentioning the fact that there are no traffic calming measure in place means they will install some but probably not.

So, if there are no traffic calming measures how can you expect speed to be reduced to a safe level?

Also what could you actually implement to calm traffic here?

I'd also like to point out there is a bike lane on this road. How safe is it to bike where car speeds are not calmed? I know I specifically avoid this street and will ride on non-bike lane roads over this one.
This logic seems pretty flawed. Sure if we have the sign not everyone will obey it, but the people that do won't be honked at or tailed for driving slower than the speed limit. Especially around the school zones, we expect everyone to slow to 30 then immediately accelerate to 50? Like no children walks beyond the school zone signs?

It should be automatic any lanes with protected and especially painted bike lanes is automatically 40.

 
"But some people will observe that. And so then we end up with a larger spread in speeds, which can also create speed differentials, which can create collisions," he said.
I effing hate this logic in residential areas. I would say this is a stretch where the limit sign is unlikely to influence behaviour much, but who cares. When it does slow people down, that also slows down the people behind them. Of we could just try some enforcement FFS.

This stretch is also a steep hill. Which means riding up it is slow and not fun to have cars charging past right beside. And riding down I'm taking the lane, not the bike lane, because the meter of pavement nearest the curb is not to be trusted at any kind of speed.

The very worst thing is that 33rd and 20th is a very busy ped intersection. The last thing we need is southbound traffic charging at 60kph to try and make it through a green/yellow light (but hey, it's just 10 over!)

26th is also a nightmare these days. IMO the city shouldn't be allowed to count any bike paint whatsoever unless the road is 40 kph.
 

A four-block stretch of 20th Street S.W. was recently rejected as one of the city's next streets to drop from a speed limit of 50 kilometres an hour to 40.

Traffic on 20th Street, from 33rd Avenue to 29th Avenue S.W. was recently monitored. The city determined, among other things, that the average speed was more than 45 kilometres an hour — too fast for the city to drop the speed limit from 50 km/h.

"If we drop the speed limit by 10 kilometres an hour, that doesn't mean that people's behaviour is going to change by 10 kilometres an hour," said Tony Churchill, the city's senior leader of mobility safety.

"But some people will observe that. And so then we end up with a larger spread in speeds, which can also create speed differentials, which can create collisions," he said.

Churchill says the speed has to be consistently below the posted speed limit before a change is considered.

And there are other criteria the city considers.

The length of the roadway is taken into account and whether it has any playground zones or bus routes. The city will also consider whether traffic calming measures have been installed.


This article was a wild ride of emotions... I'll concentrate on 20th, as its a street I know well since I live in the area. I get that the road design is the issue because it allows cars to drive to 50km/hr. And maybe him mentioning the fact that there are no traffic calming measure in place means they will install some but probably not.

So, if there are no traffic calming measures how can you expect speed to be reduced to a safe level?

Also what could you actually implement to calm traffic here?

I'd also like to point out there is a bike lane on this road. How safe is it to bike where car speeds are not calmed? I know I specifically avoid this street and will ride on non-bike lane roads over this one.

Edit: I emailed my councillor on this one.
This whole article does a good job of how perverse the situation is - you can only get improvements (signs, traffic calming whatever) if you are on a street that doesn't have a problem.

Speed limits both don't matter "changing the speed limit doesn't change people behaviour" and matter so much you can't actually change them because it will be dangerous.

It's kafka-esque stuff.

Regarding 20 Street SW specifically, 40km/h should be the case or down-classing the road from local from collector (so therefore 40 is standard) as there's no bus route. Even better, put a stop sign right at the top of the hill as this is where I have almost been killed several times as speeding cars crest a hill they can't see and have no expectation to slow down.

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Will construction continue though the winter or will it be suspended till spring? If the latter, I hope they remove the 80 km/hr speed limits. Although I’m usually one of only a few that actually go that speed through the construction zones.
 

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