Mountain Man
Senior Member
The DIC has everything to do with this project as they would be neighbours. I'm all for services helping our most vulnerable population, but I wouldn't want to live right beside it.
This project if constructed is no closer to the DIC than Bosa's towers in East Village. The DIC was there before Bosa's developments and obviously did not alter their decision to move forward. We have not heard anything about Great Gulf delaying their project until a decision was made on the DIC. The reason that Great Gulf put their project on hold was and still is that market conditions for new condo sales are very poor in Calgary.The DIC has everything to do with this project as they would be neighbours.
I don't know if location is involved in Great Gulf's decision or not, it's hard to say without having some inside info. The condo market has been struggling, but condo projects which have been marketed to investors have sold well. First and Park, Minto Bridgeland, and Gallery on 10th, all sold out easily without any real marketing other than the Ontario investor website. Nude and Frontier seem to also be in the same category, though I don't know if those projects are fully sold out. either way they sold enough to build. The projects all share the fact that it's mostly out of town investors, but they also share the fact that the locations are better. Selling units in a building located close to the DIC is going to have some effect, even for outside investors. how much is anyone's guess.This project if constructed is no closer to the DIC than Bosa's towers in East Village. The DIC was there before Bosa's developments and obviously did not alter their decision to move forward. We have not heard anything about Great Gulf delaying their project until a decision was made on the DIC. The reason that Great Gulf put their project on hold was and still is that market conditions for new condo sales are very poor in Calgary.
All I am saying is that the discussion about the location of the DIC belongs in the Calgary Homeless thread... not in this one!
It has 100% kneecapped EV's development. When EV was first starting out I considered buying there but through reasons un-related to the DIC, I didn't. As time has gone on and I've seen what's become of EV, I'm glad I didn't and I can't imagine anyone wanting to buy there right now. A potential buyer has all kinds of good choices of inner city areas. All of them have some issues of homelessness and crime of course, but none of them are the zombie wasteland EV is. If the city was serious about getting EV off the ground they would have moved the DIC. I know it's easier than done, but there must be a location better than the current one.One could argue the DIC's presence has kneecapped the East Village. I know people who have lived there for years and are now moving out because of the DIC.
It would have to be an industrial area to avoid nimby opposition, but what’s actually stopping at from being in an industrial area?What location could possibly be better than where it's been located for decades now? What neighbourhood in this nimby-riddled city wouldn't have a general uprising at the mere mention of it being located there? The only suggestion I've heard where there might not be an uprising would be one of the industrial areas, except that such a proposal is absurd as it would remove users of the DIC from the core services they require, further dispersing unhoused and addicted people throughout downtown rather than their current concentration close to the DIC. It literally can't be moved.
I agree, that moving the DIC and some other facilities out of the core to industrial area does feel like it is hiding people out of sight but I don’t have an issue with that.Why not give everyone a one way bus ticket to Edmonton?
Hide it away in some industrial district so that we can forget about our societal failures, well, unless you happen to take that LRT. How long until you hear people speak out over the declining safety on that LRT.? There could be a more accessible location with better amenities than the East Village location outside the core and near an industrial area. The suggestion here puts emphasis on hiding people from view which is just plain cold.
Whatever effect on real estate values will be inherited as the facility predates development. Many will choose to live next to it if it means paying a little less as they do everywhere. Development continues in the East Village.. There's a 43 storey tower under construction with as many units as three mid rises. There's not more towers because of the market..
My thoughts too, and I said the same thing in the homeless people thread. All those people who are advocating for the drop in Centre to remain downtown or in EV, I wonder how many of them would be willing to live across from the drop in Centre or move their families there? The problem is, none of those people put their money where their mouth is, and instead we’re stuck with a downtown with crime issues and other undesirable elements because some people don’t want to offend the feelings of the homeless.The same people who ardently push for more downtown density and more people living downtown are also the same people who want the Drop in centre and related treatment facilities to be downtown.