CalgaryTiger
Senior Member
If the bar for this is what's in Bowness, then it will be a success.
|
|
|
Calgary's Downtown Dilemma
- Thread starter Alex_YYC
- Start date
One part of downtown that has been a huge success is the Peace Bridge Plaza.
CBBarnett
Senior Member
You should try that D'Served Ice Cream cart. Really good ice cream cookie sandwiches they bake and make locally. Also a good instagram follow for some behind the scenes of what operating a cart business is like and some of the policy change/pilot project stuff that is trying to encourage more of this stuff. Cool perspectives from a pro-bicycle/pro-pathway DIY local business.
Roaring Flames
Senior Member
The plaza's actually got an official name: Delta Garden and yea it's awesome
Must be good. It's not shown in the pics, but there was a lineup. It's been great having these small pop up businesses along the pathway.
If they don't build they second Concord tower, it would be so nice if a small retail plaza with a pub/resto was built there instead.
MichaelS
Senior Member
Sounds like the Shell tower will be mostly empty, as Shell is moving into a smaller square footage in The Bow:
renx.ca
Shell’s Bow tower move includes big cut in leased space
Shell Canada‘s move from Calgary’s Shell Centre to The Bow tower in 2023 will leave a 315,000-square-foot hole in an already challenged downtown office market as it reduces its total space in the city by over half. In an e-mailed
renx.ca
CalgaryTiger
Senior Member
Not sure if this has been brought up here but I think Transalta and whoever else is on this block is also moving out of their buildings in the beltline.
Was going by and noticed a marketing sign for Beltline Block.
Proposed Upgrades here.
Wonder where they're going? And good luck to Colliers.
Was going by and noticed a marketing sign for Beltline Block.
Proposed Upgrades here.
Wonder where they're going? And good luck to Colliers.
CalgaryTiger
Senior Member
What's going to be the first office tower demolished and turned into a parking lot?Sounds like the Shell tower will be mostly empty, as Shell is moving into a smaller square footage in The Bow:
Shell’s Bow tower move includes big cut in leased space
Shell Canada‘s move from Calgary’s Shell Centre to The Bow tower in 2023 will leave a 315,000-square-foot hole in an already challenged downtown office market as it reduces its total space in the city by over half. In an e-mailed
JonnyCanuck
Senior Member
I am beginning to think there will be no more new office towers in downtown Calgary .... ever!
CT (Chinese_T)
Active Member
Sounds like the Shell tower will be mostly empty, as Shell is moving into a smaller square footage in The Bow:
Shell’s Bow tower move includes big cut in leased space
Shell Canada‘s move from Calgary’s Shell Centre to The Bow tower in 2023 will leave a 315,000-square-foot hole in an already challenged downtown office market as it reduces its total space in the city by over half. In an e-mailed
Shell Centre actually looks to be the right floor size for residential conversion.
I like that we are seeing office conversions, but would * really * like to see one of the bigger towers get converted. WCP, Nexen, BVS, Calgary Place or Shell.
CalgaryTiger
Senior Member
I was watching House Hunters International and even though the family didn't end up renting in this tower I always though it was a great inspiration for office conversions in Calgary. The simple exterior is similar to a lot of the bigger towers in Calgary that need to be converted.
In Shell Centre's page on Wikipedia I see it says: "The building included two levels of underground parking with capacity for 86 cars. The building was designed in a figure eight shape which allows for eight (edit: wikipedia incorrectly says 8, source article says 6) corner offices, and includes a recessed lobby accessible from street levels behind a series of supportive pillars."
86 cars seems small... could be a barrier to conversion. But then you see there could be 8 eight corner units per floor and Toronto investors might be tripping over themselves. No idea what a recessed lobby is?!
In Shell Centre's page on Wikipedia I see it says: "The building included two levels of underground parking with capacity for 86 cars. The building was designed in a figure eight shape which allows for eight (edit: wikipedia incorrectly says 8, source article says 6) corner offices, and includes a recessed lobby accessible from street levels behind a series of supportive pillars."
86 cars seems small... could be a barrier to conversion. But then you see there could be 8 eight corner units per floor and Toronto investors might be tripping over themselves. No idea what a recessed lobby is?!
Last edited:
MichaelS
Senior Member
I've never noticed the figure 8 shape of the Shell Tower before, but when you look at it overhead, it is obvious:
The two "square" towers are about 38m by 38m (very rough google maps measurement). When you consider that the new Oliver tower is roughly 30m by 30m, it isn't a dramatically bigger floor plate. Seems like residential conversion with decent floor plans wouldn't be as big of a challenge with this building.
The two "square" towers are about 38m by 38m (very rough google maps measurement). When you consider that the new Oliver tower is roughly 30m by 30m, it isn't a dramatically bigger floor plate. Seems like residential conversion with decent floor plans wouldn't be as big of a challenge with this building.
Mountain Man
Senior Member
I only see 6 corner offices lol.
CalgaryTiger
Senior Member
8 corner-ish offices. They must, somehow, be counting the corners where the two sides of the figure 8 meet?
Edit: Read the source article, 6 is the correct amount of corner offices. Wikipedia misquotes the Calgary Herald article. I found the section on building form to be accurate. I don't love the simple marble as much as the writer (John Glassco) but he seems to know the problems the +15 can and will bring to the downtown.
Last edited: