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Go Elevated or try for Underground?

  • Work with the province and go with the Elevated option

    Votes: 24 70.6%

  • Try another approach and go for Underground option

    Votes: 7 20.6%

  • Cancel it altogether

    Votes: 1 2.9%

  • Go with a BRT solution

    Votes: 2 5.9%
  • Total voters
    34
CalgaryTiger said:
These people are about to get a high six-figure/low seven-figure cheque. Sure they'll need to purchase a home in a competitive market but I don't exactly lose sleep over things like this.
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Is that fair market value? Although there are no comps there so who knows. 🤷‍♂️
 
Expropriation is not fair market value even if in most cases it would be close. These will be exceedingly unique - somewhat like when they had to expropriate the churches for the west LRT
 
MichaelS said:
Are these properties required for the first phase? Or, will the construction terminate before daylighting at this location?
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It's possible that those properties wouldn't be needed if they run out of money for Phase 2 of Stage 1.

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MichaelS said:
Just so I understand the nomenclature for this project, Stage 1 is 16th Avenue to Shepard, correct? But split into 2 phases? Phase 1 being Eau Claire (2nd Avenue Station) to Shepard, and Phase 2 being Eau Claire to 16th Avenue?
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That is correct.

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https://livewirecalgary.com/2023/07...owners-frustrated-by-delayed-green-line-work/

Concerns around the Eau Claire to 16th ave portion of the Green Line.

Because they break it down by stage 1 (16 Ave to Sheppard) and within that Phase 1 and 2, it's hard to understand from some articles which portion they refer to. Is there still uncertainty on whether phase 2 (Eau Claire to 16th Ave) will go ahead? It's odd they'd tunnel all the way to Eau Claire then not connect it North, considering that tunnel is probably the most costly part.
 
We should be close to finding out the actual cost of Phase 1 of Phase 1. I mean close in the timeline of this whole thing where January 2024 is tomorrow and July 2024 is next week. I assume once that's finalized, they'll see where they're at and what if any money is left. Sorry Crescent Heights, you're going to be waiting awhile for your improved public realm.

Funny things is, at the bottom of the article Live Wire is advertising an article they wrote on the city's high credit rating. One reason for that is the city resisting the urge to all UAE and just build a brand new city to spite fiscal management.
 
trtcttc said:
https://livewirecalgary.com/2023/07...owners-frustrated-by-delayed-green-line-work/

Concerns around the Eau Claire to 16th ave portion of the Green Line.

Because they break it down by stage 1 (16 Ave to Sheppard) and within that Phase 1 and 2, it's hard to understand from some articles which portion they refer to. Is there still uncertainty on whether phase 2 (Eau Claire to 16th Ave) will go ahead? It's odd they'd tunnel all the way to Eau Claire then not connect it North, considering that tunnel is probably the most costly part.
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It is because it is so costly why they don't know the timing. I think we will struggle to get Eau Claire to Shepard built with the budget we have, let alone the massive additional cost of crossing the river and climbing that hill.
 
MichaelS said:
It is because it is so costly why they don't know the timing. I think we will struggle to get Eau Claire to Shepard built with the budget we have, let alone the massive additional cost of crossing the river and climbing that hill.
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Yea looking further into it, I doubt it's possible either. The Waterloo ION stage 2, completely surface LRT in suburban areas is projected to cost 4.5 B for 18km, the same length as Phase 1 of the Green Line. Even though that Waterloo number definitely seems off but 5.5 might not even get it to Eau Claire with all the tunnelling that's required.
 
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