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Calgary Flames Official Thread

It's going to be interesting to see which direction the team goes. I thought we would be near the bottom and starting to do the full rebuild thing. At some point in my lifetime I'd like to see the Flames have 2 or 3 really bad years, and get some high draft picks, maybe getting a generational type player. I know that doesn't guarantee a Stanley cup, and teams can still win cups by simply making good trades and drafting well even without top 5 picks, but it feels like they need to start from scratch.
 
Surrealplaces said:
It's going to be interesting to see which direction the team goes. I thought we would be near the bottom and starting to do the full rebuild thing. At some point in my lifetime I'd like to see the Flames have 2 or 3 really bad years, and get some high draft picks, maybe getting a generational type player. I know that doesn't guarantee a Stanley cup, and teams can still win cups by simply making good trades and drafting well even without top 5 picks, but it feels like they need to start from scratch.
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Wolf is too good, they need to hope they win a lottery to get a good pick. This team should be right back here (9th) next season.
 
Alex_YYC said:
If the Flames had have lost last night, I think we’d see him tomorrow night, but I doubt we see him play as long as the Flames are in the race.
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Yeah no need to throw him in a critical game, could be bad for both him and the team...

Didn't expect the Flames to still be in the race, this might come down to the last game of the season! If St Louis or Minny lose thgeir last game in regulation and we win both of our last games, we're in. Great to have a playoff chase this year, figured we would win like 20 games this entire season!
 
Surrealplaces said:
It's going to be interesting to see which direction the team goes. I thought we would be near the bottom and starting to do the full rebuild thing. At some point in my lifetime I'd like to see the Flames have 2 or 3 really bad years, and get some high draft picks, maybe getting a generational type player. I know that doesn't guarantee a Stanley cup, and teams can still win cups by simply making good trades and drafting well even without top 5 picks, but it feels like they need to start from scratch.
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A lot of teams do that and never make it out of the bottom. Take the Red Wings for example, a model organization at one time, drafted high year after year and they have some good players but none became a star. It's probably going to require some picks but also betting on young players that fell out with their old teams. Frost and Farabee have been pretty meh, but I'd wait for a full season judge. The previous iteration of the team, Tkachuk was 6th, Gaudreau much later, Hanifin/Lindholm from a trade. The rest form a mix of trades/draft picks. With a good goalie and a decent d-core, they don't need that much offence to be successful.
 
For sure there's no guarantee that high draft picks will win a cup, but that's a team's best chance at getting superstar or generational type players. Every team is still going to need a good GM that can make good trades and good scouting to pick the right players, but high draft picks over a period gives you a chance to build a contender with some staying power.

One of the reasons I'd like to see a couple years of high picks (and by high picks, I mean ideally in the top 5 but could also be in later 1st round) is because of the Flames previous iteration. Tkachuk was IMO, the best of the players from the last iteration and was 6th. Johnny was great and was a later pick, and we picked up good players like Hanifin and Lindholm, but in the end we lost to the team that had the superstars from high draft picks.

Every once in a while you'll get a team like Vegas or St Louis that wins a cup, and does it without generational players, showing it can definitely be done, but the teams that have won multiple cups, or win a cup and are competitive playoff teams for a long period, teams like New Jersey, Colorado (both eras), Tampa Bay, Chicago, Pittsburgh (both eras), Anaheim and LA had high draft picks and superstar players to build the team around.
 
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Ideally they would've bottomed out this year, with the draft pick situation. Hopefully next year they don't sign as many depth players to actually get a look at their farm system and see where that takes them.
 
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