US Politics

[CalgaryTiger]

I knew Trump and Musk wouldn't be a good combo, but I neve thought things would get so crazy. An often asked question is, what's worse, a dumb man with too much power or a smart man with too much power? The answer is the worst is the combination of them.

You're overestimating Musk. He's honestly not that smart, he's a creative idea guy. He's Zuckerberg but you know a fascist, I would never accuse Zuckerberg of that.

He's a opportunist and a slave driver. An opportunist in that he never created anything on his own and has benefitted massively from being the money behind very smart people. He's slave driver because he pushes people beyond what I think is reasonable and fair. There are obviously some very smart people that work for him as for why they continue to work for him, I have no idea.

 

[Surrealplaces]

You're overestimating Musk. He's honestly not that smart, he's a creative idea guy. He's Zuckerberg but you know a fascist, I would never accuse Zuckerberg of that.

He's a opportunist and a slave driver. An opportunist in that he never created anything on his own and has benefitted massively from being the money behind very smart people. He's slave driver because he pushes people beyond what I think is reasonable and fair. There are obviously some very smart people that work for him as for why they continue to work for him, I have no idea.

I think people assume the richest man in the world would be a smart one, but how smart is another story. I still think he's a smart person, but probably not as smart as a lot of people assume. I think he's smart enough to think a plan through and take advantage. He's definitely an opportunist and I think he's taking advantage of this opportunity to push his personal agenda, which is looking a lot like fascism.

 

[CalgaryTiger]

Depends on your definition of smart... I've worked with executives who couldn't troubleshoot a basic issue because their minds are on a much larger thought scale. I think Musk is smart when it comes to moving like an executive.

 

[Surrealplaces]

. I think Musk is smart when it comes to moving like an executive.

That's where I too, think he's smart, which is the part that worries me. He seems more likely to look at ideas and think long term. It wouldn't surprise me at all if he has a plan and he's following it.

Trump on the other hand doesn't seem very smart in any way. His dad bailed him out a few times, and yet he still managed to go bankrupt 6 times, including bankrupting his casino operation - something I didn't think was even possible lol. He also has the discipline of a toddler, and can be controlled by either giving him compliments or he can lose keeping his eye on the ball by telling him you don't like him. I will give Trump credit for his salesmanship, time and time again he sells people on his ideas, whether business or politics.

 

[CalgaryTiger]

I will give Trump credit for his salesmanship, time and time again he sells people on his ideas, whether business or politics.

You have to look at who's buying what he's selling. Trump is a conman, short for confidence man, if you're susceptible to someone who shows a little confidence you buy what he is selling.

I've gotten really personal on here lately but that's what anonymous usernames are for... A family member recently confided that they were behind Trump because they thought he was finally someone in power who cared about guys like him and Trump wanted to change things. He now doesn't think he really cares about or knows what he's doing. He's just breaking things and doesn't actually care to put them back together and that it will be someone else's job to fix things and when they do, the same people who always got ahead will keep getting ahead.

 

[darwink]

I think there is a possibility that there is degraded capacity at play, working long days, not eating well, and making up for neglecting exercising and sleep with drugs.

There is also, we are used to leaders even if they are technical ones, having an arts and social science background. A classic engineering approach to public policy goes wrong quite fast typically, as the engineer quickly finds out policies were designed a certain way for valid reasons that are not solveable. You can't just say 'eh, a 2% error rate in the negative isn't bad, I'd trade that off to save the inefficiency of the 2% error rate in the positive' when that 2% negative error rate can mean people kicked out of their apartments, starving, not having medical treatment available, and ultimately not being alive anymore.

There aren't huge low hanging fruit out there. There is do less, or change who pays.

 

[Surrealplaces]

You have to look at who's buying what he's selling. Trump is a conman, short for confidence man, if you're susceptible to someone who shows a little confidence you buy what he is selling.

I've gotten really personal on here lately but that's what anonymous usernames are for... A family member recently confided that they were behind Trump because they thought he was finally someone in power who cared about guys like him and Trump wanted to change things. He now doesn't think he really cares about or knows what he's doing. He's just breaking things and doesn't actually care to put them back together and that it will be someone else's job to fix things and when they do, the same people who always got ahead will keep getting ahead.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying he's selling anything good, only that he can sell his ideas, much like a grifter or cult leader can sell to someone smart.