haltcatchfire
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Urban Development and Proposals Discussion
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IanBray
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Interesting land use re-designation application has been submitted for a 13-story building on a residential street in Bankview. Building will be located one block west of 14th street at the very top of the hill, behind the Starbucks/rooftop bug commercial building.
It's currently a couple of bungalows with tallest building around there is 3 stories however the developer is going for 13 stories (ballsy) on the back of the new City of Calgary West Elbow Communities Local Area Plan and Municipal Development Plan which suggested these blocks could be 8-12 stories as part of the city rezoning. I find it really hard to see how 13 stories would fly here considering that it is across the street from Mount Royal, the richest and most powerful residents in the city, and would block out their sunlight big time. The development is also not a full block so would need to be a skinny midrise akin to Nest.
02 Planning is involved. They have equipment on site for weeks now. I asked the guy what they are doing, and he said that it is for geothermal heating for the building which is a first for Calgary. Apparently, the developer wants to put a rooftop garden/solarium and a restaurant on the roof. Again, very odd for a residential street that is off the main street (14th street). I see this getting a lot of opposition given the 13 stories.
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There is a website for this 12 storey bankview project which will be called The Daisy.
Land Use Redesignation - 2502-2516 14A Street SW
www.engagedaisy14a.ca
- Publicly accessible rooftop all-seasons garden
- '88 Olympics Interpretive Centre
- Not-for-profit office space
- Affordable, accessible housing
- New housing"
CalgaryTiger
Senior Member
Looks like the proposal is a nod to Bob Brawn who was chairperson for the 88 Olympics committee. It's on the site where he used to live and his mother's name was Daisy.
Good location for a 12 storey building, there would be killer views.
Good location for a 12 storey building, there would be killer views.
IanBray
Active Member
Ya, it's a legacy/vanity project for successful Calgary businessman Bob Brawn (Alberta Business Hall of Fame). It looks to be a pretty cool project and includes a rooftop garden that will be accessible to the public.
I have my popcorn ready to see the objection from Upper Mount Royal residents across 14st.
CalgaryTiger
Senior Member
I want to be there as Bob and some Upper Mount Royal resident compare individual legacy and what they have done to make the city better. Hard to beat Bob in that category. Does that mean he should be given license to build this, even if it causes a shadow? We'll see.
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Chowda7
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Canada and Alberta invest $203 million for affordable housing
/CNW/ - Solving Canada's housing crisis requires immediate action to bring down costs. To provide Canadians with increased access to affordable and sustainable...
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CalgaryTiger
Senior Member
Canada and Alberta invest $203 million for affordable housing
/CNW/ - Solving Canada's housing crisis requires immediate action to bring down costs. To provide Canadians with increased access to affordable and sustainable...
- Calgary
- $28.6 million for Calhome Properties to build mixed-income affordable housing.
- $30.5 million for Onward Homes Society to build three affordable housing projects.
- $13 million for 800 GP Corporation to convert a vacant office tower into affordable housing.
- $22 million for Calgary Heritage Housing to build three buildings for seniors self-contained units.
- $3.5 million for Attainable Homes Calgary to build mixed-use, mixed-income affordable housing.
- $7.54 million for Liberty Housing Organization to build mixed-use affordable housing.
- $3.08 million for Victory Outreach Foundation to convert a hotel to affordable housing.
- $6.2 million for Homespace Society to build affordable housing.
- $2.7 million for the City of Calgary to build mixed-income, mixed-use affordable housing.
Also, the Canmore school division is in affordable housing?
- $2.5 million for Canadian Rockies School Division to build affordable housing in Canmore.
lemongrab
Active Member
Calgary to postpone Stephen Avenue construction while new timeline is developed
Due credit for putting the brakes on...as a random Joe Blow I certainly don't have the impression that they have truly learned enough and implemented changes from the 17th and Marda Loop sagas. Or maybe they have. But I don't think I'd even heard about this project [being funded and imminent] until a few weeks ago on here.
edit: the other big question I have is whether this is all planned with the eventual 8 ave subway in mind. I would certainly hope so, but not sure the city has earned the benefit of the doubt on these projects
Due credit for putting the brakes on...as a random Joe Blow I certainly don't have the impression that they have truly learned enough and implemented changes from the 17th and Marda Loop sagas. Or maybe they have. But I don't think I'd even heard about this project [being funded and imminent] until a few weeks ago on here.
edit: the other big question I have is whether this is all planned with the eventual 8 ave subway in mind. I would certainly hope so, but not sure the city has earned the benefit of the doubt on these projects
outoftheice
Active Member
Here's the rendering for the block in question. I'm not really blown away by what they are proposing but I also think the businesses along the street wanting to preserve automobile access is an outdated way of thinking and takes away from the street instead of adding to it. I do agree with their view that 3 months per block instead of 15 months is worth the extra money for such an important street.
Full project website here:
www.calgary.ca
Full project website here:
Stephen Avenue
www.calgary.ca
trtcttc
Senior Member
It's an affordable housing proposal on school lands with units reserved for staff. Great idea and probably needed in places that Canmore that have a large influx of out of town buyers.
Development plan on Canmore school land continues forward
Canadian Rockies Public Schools received a grant from the provincial government of up to $2.5 million for its ongoing work with the Lawrence Grassi Middle School area redevelopment plan.
www.rmoutlook.com
DougB
Senior Member
Does the Stephen Ave redesign consider a future subway? If utility work is planned, it should relocate utilities to areas thst would be unaffected by a future cut and cover tunnel
CBBarnett
Senior Member
I think the subway is on the 30 year+ plan, so perhaps they do what they can now but acknowledge that it's probably the next lifecycle of Stephen Ave that will warrant more serious consideration of a subway. I wish it was sooner - I want the LRT to convert more and more to a grade-separated light-metro style system, rather than the way it's going with more at-grade crossings added slowing things down. Calgary at 2.5 million is going to need the Red Line to do a lot more than it currently can (as impressive as the capacity is at-grade today).
Back to Stephen Ave upgrades - I think what's often forgotten here is the project is really is mostly utility work in cost and time. It's truly an iceberg where 90% is below the surface - all the cost, delays and risks are beneath the ground. It all compounds, because not only do you have to dig deep, you have to keep access open and keep everything safe - safety fencing, supports, openings, closures. Digging underground will inevitably hit something unforeseen, delaying things further. It's so much harder than just the surface treatment.
If they didn't need to upgrade any pipes, they could probably complete just the surface job in a month or two. That's just scraping off the top layer and putting in some new pavers and light poles. You'd hardly need any fencing or closures beyond some temporary stuff for accessibility - there's no big excavations to fall in.
cameronhowe
Active Member
Here's the rendering for the block in question. I'm not really blown away by what they are proposing but I also think the businesses along the street wanting to preserve automobile access is an outdated way of thinking and takes away from the street instead of adding to it. I do agree with their view that 3 months per block instead of 15 months is worth the extra money for such an important street.
Full project website here:
Stephen Avenue
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I agree, I don't find the renderings of what they're proposing to be all that groundbreaking tbh but it's an improvement from what exists there today. I hope that they don't cave and allow for the car access as I think this should be one of the few pedestrian-only streets in the city. I also agree that these improvements shouldn't take 15 months and that the 3-month approach would be ideal. My only comment to that is they don't want 24/7construction but yet want the project expedited as fast a possible. Those two ideas are a bit conflicting.
darwink
Senior Member
There is real debate. The illusion of parking likely led to the sustainability of 8th as a pedestrian mall while others failed across north america.Here's the rendering for the block in question. I'm not really blown away by what they are proposing but I also think the businesses along the street wanting to preserve automobile access is an outdated way of thinking and takes away from the street instead of adding to it. I do agree with their view that 3 months per block instead of 15 months is worth the extra money for such an important street.
Full project website here:
Stephen Avenue