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Urban Development and Proposals Discussion

Roaring Flames said:

Among other recent Stampede Park news are the new entrance signs being installed in April:​

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Calgary Stampede to add three new entrance art statues - LiveWire Calgary

The Calgary Stampede announced a new era for public art to entice and welcome visitors, with three new public artworks set to adorn the Erlton, Stampede Trail, and Flores LaDue Parade entrances to the park. Jason Carter, known for his public artwork at the Calgary International Airport as well...
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The signs look surprisingly nice. I really like the first one especially.
 
I really want to see them build out a year round fair ground and place for entertainment that integrates with the City. Best I've been to and what I would hope to see something similar to is Tivoli Gardens in Copenhagen.
Here is a comparison of the land that Tivoli gardens takes up compared to the Stampede grounds:
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Tivoli is approximately 23 acres large and is a great a well-used place year round by kids and adults alike. It is well connected to the rest of the City despite being a Theme Park. Copenhagen's city population is 1.378M and Metro population is about 2.1M. Calgary's City population is 1.3M and the metro is about 1.8M, pretty comparable. We both get a fairly similar amount of tourists per year as well.

I feel confident that the City of Calgary and Calgary Stampede could build a year round theme park that integrates with it's surroundings that is the size of Tivoli Gardens (23ac) anywhere inside of this area:
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Just need to have some vision and stop giving every square inch of the land for pavement and cars. It doesn't just work in Europe, Denver has Elitch Gardens.

I would suggest it would need to be a cultural experience place as well not just an amusement park to become an interesting year round cultural destination. Tivoli has drink carts, places to eat on beautiful water features, has fireworks and does themed things for holidays. That is what I think could create a real destination, year round out of the Stampede. Don't just leave it as a shit-hole parking lot all year long, make actual improvements and take away space for cars and parking, we have enough of it. This would also have two LRT stations connected to it, so ditch the surfacing parking.
 
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Year round fairground means a lot more maintenance and constant complaints of noise. You also risk losing the crowd that comes by once a year because theres a fair. That said I really wish we had something better than Calaway Park, which has owners only interested in entertainment suited for pre-teens and young families.
 
CalgaryTiger said:
Ice cold water poured on the prospect of a hotel:

CMLC and the Calgary Stampede previously announced in 2022 plans for a $80 million luxury hotel that was set to begin construction in 2024, but which fell through due to financing.

I said it a thousand times but I'll say it again. Put something like the Silos Waco Texas where the dome is. They will not regret it.

I'd also like a downtown sports field and Stampede park would be a great spot for it. It could be well used during Stampede and other events outside of being used for local sports.

Final thing on my wish list would be an amphitheatre.

I'd like the Stampeders to be able to share the Grandstand with the Stampede but I don't think that will happen and I actually don't know why.
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Sounds like a good use for a retrofitted Saddledome. Absolutely ridiculous that everyone seems to have concluded that demolishing it is a foregone conclusion. Makes me sick
 
CallmeCatbread said:
Sounds like a good use for a retrofitted Saddledome. Absolutely ridiculous that everyone seems to have concluded that demolishing it is a foregone conclusion. Makes me sick
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The Saddledome is literally falling apart, it sucks it's going to be gone, but the cost to repair would be in the hundreds of millions of dollars. Then there's the question of what to actually do with it, CSEC made the city agree that it can't compete with Scotia Place.
 
CallmeCatbread said:
Sounds like a good use for a retrofitted Saddledome. Absolutely ridiculous that everyone seems to have concluded that demolishing it is a foregone conclusion. Makes me sick
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If you’re game to repair it, insure it, operate it, manage it, program it and pay taxes on it we’d like to bring you in for a meeting.
 
Mountain Man said:
The Saddledome is literally falling apart, it sucks it's going to be gone, but the cost to repair would be in the hundreds of millions of dollars. Then there's the question of what to actually do with it, CSEC made the city agree that it can't compete with Scotia Place.
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$48.7 million in repairs over a decade, according to a 2020 report on it. Much cheaper than the $853 million straight from the city for the new arena.

But it seems we went ahead with wasting taxpayer dollars, so yeah there's not much else to do.
 
I don't think we need an amusement park in the same vein as Tivoli. But I love the idea of transforming it into something that is useful and attractive year-round (while still enabling good usage during stamede itself)

One idea that I think would work very well in the winter months is a massive ice skating park with many branching paths, lights displays, food stands, etc. Add in some stampede-themed cultural sites and it could be a year-round destination for locals & tourists alike.
 
Was just about to post the same thing regarding an observation wheel. We maybe don't need a whole amusement park, but something like that would be cool. Some permanent food stalls for mini donuts and beef on a bun, have a year round livestock presence that people can observe/learn about, etc... A small taste of the 10 day event, for those that can't make it here for those specific dates.

The 10 day event will still be a draw due to things like the rodeo and chuck wagons, the coca cola stage shows, the broader midway, other concerts, etc.... and just the general vibe the entire city adopts for it.
 
Panda_ said:
$48.7 million in repairs over a decade, according to a 2020 report on it. Much cheaper than the $853 million straight from the city for the new arena.

But it seems we went ahead with wasting taxpayer dollars, so yeah there's not much else to do.
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That's not that bad actually, thought I remember reading it was several times that amount.
 
Panda_ said:
$48.7 million in repairs over a decade, according to a 2020 report on it. Much cheaper than the $853 million straight from the city for the new arena.

But it seems we went ahead with wasting taxpayer dollars, so yeah there's not much else to do.
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Those didn’t happen to include the eventual full roof and ring replacement. And upgrading the roof to support modern concert loads. Building out concourses. Washrooms and concession upgrades.
 
Re: a Stampede hotel, I wonder if Truman beat them to the punch and they don't feel there's enough market in the vicinity to have both projects go ahead? Plus, $80 million doesn't go far these days, so I would imagine this would be more Econolodge than Marriott...
 
Albertasaurus said:
Re: a Stampede hotel, I wonder if Truman beat them to the punch and they don't feel there's enough market in the vicinity to have both projects go ahead? Plus, $80 million doesn't go far these days, so I would imagine this would be more Econolodge than Marriott...
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So much noise about a Truman something but nothing concrete... We're waiting!

I think the one beside cowboys was going to be small. I think there's this Truman thing and then CSEC is going to do there's in the NE corner.
 
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