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Urban Development and Proposals Discussion

outoftheice said:
Will be curious to see if there is a list of projects that accompany this plan. Spending up to $250 million a year on rec facilities for the next 25 years seems like it would build a crap ton of new things. How much was the Y in Seton?

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What is GamePLAN? Council to consider 25-year spending plan to fund rec facilities

When it comes to recreational facilities, should the City of Calgary be making waves, going under, or staying afloat?
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Thank you for posting this, I hadn't seen anything about it but this is very important to me. I wonder if staying afloat is at our current population or is it the status quo as the city grows. making waves mentions service increases to match population growth so to me staying afloat doesn't guarantee matching population growth.

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From the Herald article... Consistent funding is important but I hope that funding can wind up and down as required over the years. Granted I think our recreation deficit could probably use $250M a year for at least a decade.
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With a Making Waves investment, it isn't a stretch to see us being a Summer Olympic city.
 
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CalgaryTiger said:
Thank you for posting this, I hadn't seen anything about it but this is very important to me. I wonder if staying afloat is at our current population or is it the status quo as the city grows. making waves mentions service increases to match population growth so to me staying afloat doesn't guarantee matching population growth.

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From the Herald article... Consistent funding is important but I hope that funding can wind up and down as required over the years. Granted I think our recreation deficit could probably use $250M a year for at least a decade.
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With a Making Waves investment, it isn't a stretch to see us being a Summer Olympic city.
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Similar sentiments that this is important but often not discussed. The scenarios are quite confusing, is this in addition to the city's current budget? For context, the 2025 budget plan has us spending $110M on recreation opportunities, so are we currently "staying afloat" in their view? For something that is so long term, why is this not tied to % of budget or dollar per person? Surely $200M in 2025 is very different from $200M in 2050?

I'd be curious to see the definition of each of those goals. 2.5x more fieldhouse bookable hours, is that on a per capita basis? And what does it mean by "equitable" facility distribution? Is this by area? capita? children count? Perhaps selfishly but I think we should have a round of investment for inner city facilities. Those are the oldest facilities in the city and while we are approving towers in the Beltline, we're closing down pools and fitness facilities. If we want people to live in the inner city and the downtown to be vibrant, it can't only be office towers. Many communities already have the land with community centres. A pot of money to expand those facilities and provide programming would go a long way. That's the model Vancouver has, and I was always surprised Calgary's Parks board doesn't run similar programs in community centres.
 
trtcttc said:
Similar sentiments that this is important but often not discussed. The scenarios are quite confusing, is this in addition to the city's current budget? For context, the 2025 budget plan has us spending $110M on recreation opportunities, so are we currently "staying afloat" in their view? For something that is so long term, why is this not tied to % of budget or dollar per person? Surely $200M in 2025 is very different from $200M in 2050?

I'd be curious to see the definition of each of those goals. 2.5x more fieldhouse bookable hours, is that on a per capita basis? And what does it mean by "equitable" facility distribution? Is this by area? capita? children count? Perhaps selfishly but I think we should have a round of investment for inner city facilities. Those are the oldest facilities in the city and while we are approving towers in the Beltline, we're closing down pools and fitness facilities. If we want people to live in the inner city and the downtown to be vibrant, it can't only be office towers. Many communities already have the land with community centres. A pot of money to expand those facilities and provide programming would go a long way. That's the model Vancouver has, and I was always surprised Calgary's Parks board doesn't run similar programs in community centres.
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The metrics are quite unclear. If you've been working on them for months you get it, but no one else does.
 
CalgaryTiger said:
The metrics are quite unclear. If you've been working on them for months you get it, but no one else does.
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And which services count? Is this only for swim lessons offered by the city? Or is the YMCAs, MNP, etc. all included? The community association in my area has an ice rink, is that considered part of the arena bookable hours? I assume there will be a more detailed presentation, including a look at how these metrics have changed. How has the arena bookable hours based on their criteria changed in the last 10 years, so we can see if the service is declining (anecdotally yes) or has it remained the same and we're investing to make it even better.
 
It looks very... 1980s? And not in a good way. I guess it'll do. Hopefully it's affordable housing, that'll excuse the design.
 
CalgaryTiger said:
With a Making Waves investment, it isn't a stretch to see us being a Summer Olympic city.
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The scale of hotel assets needed for a summer Olympics — Vancouver falls short too, with about 3x the number of rooms. You might think that the athletic facilities would be the expensive bits, but the athletes village is the 800 pound gorilla.
 
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