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Urban Development and Proposals Discussion

Was cruising the cities development map and found these renderings for the building that was previously Free House in Kensington. Looks damn good!

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Was cruising the cities development map and found these renderings for the building that was previously Free House in Kensington. Looks damn good!
Looks great. The nice thing is they are more or less replacing something good with something similar but nicer.

Here's some more looks at the renderings posted by Potatopizzafan, but a bit higher res, since it is a cool looking building.

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At what? $75 million dollars? $25,000 each? I'm just supposing that the $75 million could have been spent in ways that attracted 3000 more residents and created a benefit for the rest of the city at the same time.
What other things could the $75 million have been on that would draw 3,000 permanent residents?
 
This isn't the first I've heard about a lack on retail construction but there's also the fact that you hear so much about the death of retail. Biggest retail development on the near horizon is TAZA who actually seems well positioned to capitalize on the suburban retail construction slow down. I still can't believe there's that empty piece of land at Deerfoot Meadows, someone mentioned it was going to be a Canadian Tire, I think the land was even prep'd. Not sure why the developer didn't want to pivot to something else...

 
Density bonusing lets developers build extra floors in exchange for giving back to the community. For example, they can give money to a community fund, create affordable housing, or add public art.
I agreed with the funds for residential conversion, but with the new demolition program, the density bonusing offset program, we are spending too much tax dollars to subsidize development. I'd rather we spend the funds improving our downtown, such that people will want to live there, instead of funding direct subsidization of a few eligible buildings. With rent already showing a decline, I just don't see these as necessary spending that benefits a few.
 
If I'm reading the article correctly, it looks like the added incentives are more of a tradeoff for the developer, and maybe not any subsidies from the city, or maybe i missed something? If it's a case of a simple tradeoff I'm in support. If it's a case of more money used as incentives, then I'm on the fence. It would depends on the details.
 
If I'm reading the article correctly, it looks like the added incentives are more of a tradeoff for the developer, and maybe not any subsidies from the city, or maybe i missed something? If it's a case of a simple tradeoff I'm in support. If it's a case of more money used as incentives, then I'm on the fence. It would depends on the details.
Very interesting re: density bonusing.

It's a tricky one to wrap your head around where there's clearly a bunch of competing objectives:
  1. We want to encourage more development so waiving the bonusing fees (more density for no additional costs),
  2. But we don't want to get rid of the bonusing requirements as a rule,
  3. and we also don't want to just pay for the amenities independent of the development.
Awkward - just build the amenity and skip all this?
 
Very interesting re: density bonusing.

It's a tricky one to wrap your head around where there's clearly a bunch of competing objectives:
  1. We want to encourage more development so waiving the bonusing fees (more density for no additional costs),
  2. But we don't want to get rid of the bonusing requirements as a rule,
  3. and we also don't want to just pay for the amenities independent of the development.
Awkward - just build the amenity and skip all this?
Yeah. Selling density and upping amenity contributions is what has ruined Vancouver's and Toronto's housing market over the past 20 years, moving them from challenging to failure.

An assumption is that somehow it doesn't increase the cost for development land, nor increase the cost for the housing that is produced. That somehow, the city just 'captures' that value.

Lets just say, an economist didn't theorize the programs like it.
 
Very interesting re: density bonusing.

It's a tricky one to wrap your head around where there's clearly a bunch of competing objectives:
  1. We want to encourage more development so waiving the bonusing fees (more density for no additional costs),
  2. But we don't want to get rid of the bonusing requirements as a rule,
  3. and we also don't want to just pay for the amenities independent of the development.
Awkward - just build the amenity and skip all this?
I think we should be updating zoning to reflect what is suitable for an area. If the zoning is suitable, and a developer wants more floors, I do think there should be a density bonusing payment to reflect that. To say all cost is passed on to the end consumer is a little midleading since additional floors give developers more value on the land they already paid for.
 
I was walking down 17th ave today and noticed a DP for the Ship and Anchor building/Run Down condo just east of it. Does anybody have any info on this? Would be a shame if the Ship had to close.
 
I was walking down 17th ave today and noticed a DP for the Ship and Anchor building/Run Down condo just east of it. Does anybody have any info on this? Would be a shame if the Ship had to close.

Its a land use redesignation.
I could see the condo building getting redeveloped, its pretty rough and only occupies <50% of the lot. Strange that both lots are included in the application, maybe someone with some more knowledge on this could chime in
 

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