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Urban Development and Proposals Discussion

Mull said:
I would love that but is that possible? Private developer will want as much density as possible, and the DP is using existing building?
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The current DP is for renos to the existing building only. It's a change of use and changes to site plan DP to allow the conversion to residential. The facade will remain as is with new windows. No additional buildings or demolitions at this time.
 
Mahogany is getting a skyline! Just saw Jayman's new DP for its next "village" in Mahogany. For those familiar with Westman Village, it's similar to that but larger and with mostly highrises. A total of 8 ressidential buildings up to 16 storeys tall. All parking underground, it looked pretty good.
 
DougB said:
Not really. The buildings are virtually worthless due to outdated HVAC and asbestos. The Province walked away from a renovation in 1994 due to the challenges after spending millions building a new elevator tower and partially upgrading the HVAC. The site will need to be raised above floodplain. The City will likely remove the road access along the river for conversion to parkland. Finally, the site has many unmarked graves from the late 1800s to early 1900s. The site may be attractive but it would take a lot of money to make it redevelopable.
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If the owner is on this forum, I will gladly take the property off your hands for the same inflation adjusted price. DMs open ;)

This was an absolute fleecing. This is considered a TOD site, due to it's proximity to Erlton station. A lot of density will be put on this site eventually.
 
Urb said:
If the owner is on this forum, I will gladly take the property off your hands for the same inflation adjusted price. DMs open ;)

This was an absolute fleecing. This is considered a TOD site, due to it's proximity to Erlton station. A lot of density will be put on this site eventually.
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Not for 1998. Remember Mission was a less than desirable area back then and a high end luxury home in Elbow Park or Mount Royal went for about $800K. Developing site the today would cost tens of millions to tear down the existing asbestos insulated buildings, raise it above flood plain and rebuild the utilities and road network
 
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Cowtown said:
Good to see the government bringing some action, but it seems like a case of too little too late. Especially too late, this should’ve been announced four years ago.
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The real shift happened around mid 2020ish. A report came out and housing money for social housing from the previous 5 years had only been 50% spent, with many cities having projects they themselves advanced and directed funding to being rejected at the zoning stage from the same cities.

So the federal government shifted to direct inducements: change zoning, get money. That seems to have worked better, and now many provinces are up in arms as they don't want the zoning changes and have little conception about housing affordability beyond green field tract housing.
 
darwink said:
The real shift happened around mid 2020ish. A report came out and housing money for social housing from the previous 5 years had only been 50% spent, with many cities having projects they themselves advanced and directed funding to being rejected at the zoning stage from the same cities.

So the federal government shifted to direct inducements: change zoning, get money. That seems to have worked better, and now many provinces are up in arms as they don't want the zoning changes and have little conception about housing affordability beyond green field tract housing.
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This is maddening. Do you have a link to the report by any chance?
 
None of this matters without significantly cutting mass immigration. You're all being gaslit and distracted from the real problem. Canadians first.

nationalpost.com

FIRST READING: Trudeau's weird habit of denouncing his own government

According to him, immigration is too high, the government is a poor steward of public money and the carbon tax is worsening affordability
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www.theglobeandmail.com

Opinion: According to Justin Trudeau, Justin Trudeau is fear-mongering on immigration

The Prime Minister has harsh words for whoever broke Canada’s immigration system. And we’re all trying to find the guy who did this
www.theglobeandmail.com www.theglobeandmail.com
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YourBoy007 said:
None of this matters without significantly cutting mass immigration. You're all being gaslit and distracted from the real problem. Canadians first.

nationalpost.com

FIRST READING: Trudeau's weird habit of denouncing his own government

According to him, immigration is too high, the government is a poor steward of public money and the carbon tax is worsening affordability
nationalpost.com nationalpost.com

www.theglobeandmail.com

Opinion: According to Justin Trudeau, Justin Trudeau is fear-mongering on immigration

The Prime Minister has harsh words for whoever broke Canada’s immigration system. And we’re all trying to find the guy who did this
www.theglobeandmail.com www.theglobeandmail.com
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With how low our birth rate is we have no choice but to go all in on immigration. If we don't bring in more young people the next generation will have less workers than the last which will lead to a declining economy. More workers = stronger economy.

I don't read all that political propaganda the mainstream media likes to call "NEWS" Sure Trudeau is a moron and definitely a bad politician, but you also cant deny that Pollievre is fear mongering and purposefully riling people up so they'll vote for him and the conservative media is having a great time making money reporting his every word. We'll see after the next election if Pollievre wasn't just gaslighting us on the 'wonderful' stuff his government will do to fix the housing crisis and the cost of food crisis in this country. My biggest fear is that he'll remove the carbon tax and then sit on his hands and act like he fixed the issue over the cost of food, he's been largely against forcing large grocers to drop food prices.
 
Duck Lightning said:
With how low our birth rate is we have no choice but to go all in on immigration. If we don't bring in more young people the next generation will have less workers than the last which will lead to a declining economy.
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There are options other than 0 new immigrants, or 500,000+ new immigrants in a year. Did we need to have a record year last year for the sake of our economy, or would half that number have been fine?

Whatever number we choose, we need growth in housing to match it, and that has not happened.

And anyway Poilievre is not Maxime Bernier. He is not dropping immigration to zero.

Duck Lightning said:
We'll see after the next election if Pollievre wasn't just gaslighting us on the 'wonderful' stuff his government will do to fix the housing crisis and the cost of food crisis in this country. My biggest fear is that he'll remove the carbon tax and then sit on his hands and act like he fixed the issue over the cost of food, he's been largely against forcing large grocers to drop food prices.
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That's not what gaslighting means. A politician can't gaslight us on promises unless he somehow removes all evidence he made the promise in the first place.

I don't see any mainstream political party forcing grocers to drop prices. That's something that happens in countries with runaway inflation and thoroughly broken economies. I think the most you can expect here is some kind of subsidy or tax break, which will just further enrich the large grocers.
 
The issue isn’t with 500,000 a year for PR, it is/was a few pathways people realized were practically unlimited in capacity from the federal government. The programs were longstanding and governed by provinces or employers.

The provinces (Ontario mostly) broke the international student program and some immigration consultants figured out how to break the temporary foreign workers program.

The feds had no ‘automatic’ controls on flows from these programs because they hadn’t been broken like this before. Whenever they consulted with provinces about international students the provinces said they wanted no changes. Some provinces even threatened to sue. Whenever they consulted with businesses, businesses said they needed no changes.

The growth in temporary residents accelerated and finally broke into the mainstream in the fall, when an incredible amount of international students needed to find housing and jobs at once, and it was patently obvious the scheme had moved from a net benefit to a negative. Even then the provinces refused to do anything or engage with the federal government, thinking the feds would just let the provinces go on.
 
darwink said:
The real shift happened around mid 2020ish. A report came out and housing money for social housing from the previous 5 years had only been 50% spent, with many cities having projects they themselves advanced and directed funding to being rejected at the zoning stage from the same cities.

So the federal government shifted to direct inducements: change zoning, get money. That seems to have worked better, and now many provinces are up in arms as they don't want the zoning changes and have little conception about housing affordability beyond green field tract housing.
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Why the prescribed solution? Results matter, inputs do not. If the Feds truly wanted an outcome of more social housing, funding would be contingent on number of units built. Instead they want to invent enemies. The zoning challenges of ON and BC don't really apply in Calagey
 
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