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Urban Development and Proposals Discussion

trtcttc said:
One example is 19th Street NW. Outside of existing retail, everything else is being proposed R-CG, including lots directly north of the 19+2 apartment building and the land near the Kensington intersection (this is being upzoned by RNDSQR in a separate application). There should be upzoning of at least the West side of the street from Kensington to 6th Ave, which is perfect for retail/mixed use by having a laneway (Dairy Lane) parallel to 19th.
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CBBarnett said:
Corridors like 19th are a missed opportunity not because of R-CG becoming easier, they struggle because they were never really identified as major corridors at all, regardless of zoning.
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Although proposed for R-CG the draft Riley communities LAP indicates a desired max building scale of 6 stories transitioning to 4 stories as you go north on 19th, so I take that to be a a message that R-CG will be the default but higher density proposals will be looked upon favorably by council.

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JoeUrban said:
Although proposed for R-CG the draft Riley communities LAP indicates a desired max building scale of 6 stories transitioning to 4 stories as you go north on 19th, so I take that to be a a message that R-CG will be the default but higher density proposals will be looked upon favorably by council.

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Agreed, but then zoning should align with the identified uses. There's already R-CG under construction on 6th Ave, and an H-GO proposal on 19th between 3rd and 4th ave (that LOC have sat in submitted status in 2023). So to CBBarnett's point it isn't necessarily stopping these developments currently. But once R-CG is approved for all those "Low and Low-Modified" areas, would we be seeing a bunch more of these R-CG developments taking up land that could be used for more density. We don't need to build density down to every single lot, but it would be a shame if 19th north of 2/3rd ave is just going to be R-CG/H-GO for the next few decades.
 
Who owns Holy Cross? Still AHS/Alberta Government and only rented out? Or does AHS lease space currently there?
 
Anyone know what’s going on in the parking lot of the old Cecil Hotel Site. The Lot is fenced off and there are quite a few ATCO trailers inside
 
Golfing guy said:
Anyone know what’s going on in the parking lot of the old Cecil Hotel Site. The Lot is fenced off and there are quite a few ATCO trailers inside
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Not really any info on the city website, but the timeline does seem to lineup with the 4th avenue flyover rehabilitation project. Maybe construction trailers for that work?

Lot 75 (Downtown/East Village)

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trtcttc said:
Agreed, but then zoning should align with the identified uses. There's already R-CG under construction on 6th Ave, and an H-GO proposal on 19th between 3rd and 4th ave (that LOC have sat in submitted status in 2023). So to CBBarnett's point it isn't necessarily stopping these developments currently. But once R-CG is approved for all those "Low and Low-Modified" areas, would we be seeing a bunch more of these R-CG developments taking up land that could be used for more density. We don't need to build density down to every single lot, but it would be a shame if 19th north of 2/3rd ave is just going to be R-CG/H-GO for the next few decades.
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I suspect it's politics. Less pitchforks from "visioning what might be built in the future" than "Up-zoning to allow for 4 and 6 story apartment buildings"
 
Urb said:
Crazy price
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Not really. The buildings are virtually worthless due to outdated HVAC and asbestos. The Province walked away from a renovation in 1994 due to the challenges after spending millions building a new elevator tower and partially upgrading the HVAC. The site will need to be raised above floodplain. The City will likely remove the road access along the river for conversion to parkland. Finally, the site has many unmarked graves from the late 1800s to early 1900s. The site may be attractive but it would take a lot of money to make it redevelopable.
 
DougB said:
Not really. The buildings are virtually worthless due to outdated HVAC and asbestos. The Province walked away from a renovation in 1994 due to the challenges after spending millions building a new elevator tower and partially upgrading the HVAC. The site will need to be raised above floodplain. The City will likely remove the road access along the river for conversion to parkland. Finally, the site has many unmarked graves from the late 1800s to early 1900s. The site may be attractive but it would take a lot of money to make it redevelopable.
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I would love a park path there!
 
DougB said:
I suspect most of the site will end up as park, possibly with a few high rises towards its southwest corner
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I would love that but is that possible? Private developer will want as much density as possible, and the DP is using existing building?
 
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