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General Construction Updates

darwink said:
When plans with a high level of detail go to council, the institutional culture, enforced by council calling out admin when plans aren't followed, is that changes require going back to council. So even if things don't make sense anymore, unless the change is needed, or not making the change will result is failure, the change is not made.
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So who do I contact about the pole of shame, that wasn't in the plan.
 
potatopizzafan said:
Awesome, i didn't realise that was the multi use lane. I would have preferred a dedicated bike lane but what can ya do. Im assuming the city will be doing the snow clearing on this then?
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The latest plans on the website show a two way bike path next to a sidewalk from 22 St to 20 St, and a multi-use pathway the rest of the way.

Hopefully they clear the snow but that was something they didn't commit to during the info sessions.
 
adamyyc said:
What's hilarious about that bump out in the photos above is that it was done to avoid cutting down two mature trees. Then they determined that the trees had to be cut down because of poor health (why they didn't determine that before detailed design, I'll never understand). So now we have this weird deviation in the pathway, and lost 2-3 on-street parking spots to save trees that they cut down anyways. Ideally, the City redoes this section next summer to straighten things up, but I doubt it.
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Nice, something to point out on a future historic walking tour lol
 
In 2014, the tree seemed to be doing fine.
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Started to decline in 2016.
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A shell of itself this summer.
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Probably construction damaged the root system. Another reason we should not let any construction happen anywhere in the city :p - don't let the local NIMBY group see this...
 
darwink said:
When plans with a high level of detail go to council, the institutional culture, enforced by council calling out admin when plans aren't followed, is that changes require going back to council. So even if things don't make sense anymore, unless the change is needed, or not making the change will result in failure, the change is not made.
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This. Very this.
 
Urban Outdoorsman said:
Those look to me like Siberian Elms, which do not handle Chinooks very well. As much as I hate seeing mature trees cut down, unfortunately with Siberian Elms they just aren't well suited for our climate and experience massive die offs every few years. I've had to remove many.
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That's too bad, I quite like those trees, there is a big one just off the pathway beside Point McKay, that tree almost looks like an Oak or something from a distance.
 
The bureaucracy not being able to be the bureaucracy and the need to go back to the elected officials for everything being the issue with something as small as a curve in a sidewalk is wild. I completely believe it though. It speaks to a lot of our development issues. To have to go that far back up the chain to remove a curve in the sidewalk shows how broken things are.
 
CalgaryTiger said:
The bureaucracy not being able to be the bureaucracy and the need to go back to the elected officials for everything being the issue with something as small as a curve in a sidewalk is wild. I completely believe it though. It speaks to a lot of our development issues. To have to go that far back up the chain to remove a curve in the sidewalk shows how broken things are.
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As someone who has consulted on recent City streets project (not involved in this one). I highly doubt that this decision/change required going back to a councillor or even beyond one or two levels of managers. Without having any inside knowledge here, I suspect this was more of a case of rushing to get this stretch of work done in the late fall, and not having time to remove the large tree root balls before building the pathway. Maybe they will go back next year and reconstruct it, but I doubt it.
 
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