haltcatchfire
Senior Member
Pretty sure the actual height when you calculate it from the DP drawings makes it shorter than Telus and maybe even Petrocan.
Stephen Avenue Quarter | 241m | 66s | Triovest | Gibbs Gage
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UrbanWarrior
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Yeah, wasn’t the final calculation for the main tower to be 214 meters? That would put it as fifth tallest in the city, sixth tallest outside of Toronto.
haltcatchfire
Senior Member
Sounds about right. I posted it way back in this thread but I moved today so I’m too lazy now to look it up.
MichaelS
Senior Member
Leaving Kensington?
haltcatchfire
Senior Member
Swapped west side of 10th St for the east side. We’re finally Sunnysiders. Hillhurst will be missed, but will still visit nearly every day.
I couldn’t bear having West Village Towers the main feature out my living room window any longer.
haltcatchfire
Senior Member
On further review, this tower might end up visible from my spot in Sunnyside. Did I trade one for another? Don’t make me angry Triovest.
O-tac
Active Member
Sounds like there may be some tweaks to this development coming in about 2 weeks. Also disappointed in the Mayor's comments in this article. Telus Sky is an enhancement to our skyline, not to the area. The streetlife and vitality of that corner is far less today than it was when Art Central was on there. So in terms of postcard photos, Telus Sky is a win. In terms of a vibrant downtown, it was a loss. Same as the Bow. The Triovest proposal will kill the vibrancy in the same way but will do so on Calgary's most important downtown street and without delivering any sort of signature tower into the skyline either.
Development planned for Calgary’s Stephen Avenue fuels debate about protecting city’s heritage buildings
Stephen Avenue Quarter would include the tallest building in Western Canada, and result in changes to or the complete demolition of a number of historic buildingswww.theglobeandmail.com
I can't see past the paywall. What did Gondek say? At least there's finally talk of retaining more than facades. Hopefully some attention gets paid to 7th Ave as that is the worst feature of the entire proposal. I have my doubts though. Still wish this wasn't happening.
O-tac
Active Member
Got through the paywall and read the article. I have zero hope now. Gondek and Wong (who is a terrible replacement for Farrell btw) both sound desperate to rubber stamp any large development DT at any cost. Development for the sake of development. Calgary’s ethos that has led us to this point of windswept corporate plazas and taxpayers footing the bill to convert now useless and empty office buildings. I’m so disillusioned by this city and how much it sucks corporate dick. Triovest must know this council will be afraid to stand up to them or be painted anti development next election.
Also I was surprised that it said it would only retain the exterior of the BMO building. I thought that property was outside the scope of the project.
Also I was surprised that it said it would only retain the exterior of the BMO building. I thought that property was outside the scope of the project.
JonnyCanuck
Senior Member
It was not in scope. The writer may have meant the Molson Bank building which is where the James Joyce is.
cameronhowe
Active Member
Which is ironic, isn't Wong the one who's so anti-development in Chinatown?
FCC1982
Active Member
Is that even possible ?
A cardboard cut-out would be an improvement on Farrell.
O-tac
Active Member
Well like her or not Druh stuck to her guns when it came to urban design. She fought for the Peace bridge among many other things. I can’t see her voting in favour of this project.
goodcitywhenfinished
Active Member
To be fair, from a purely economic perspective this development is a no-brainer when council has been so focused on downtown revitalization. The cultural nuances of historic preservation and the inherent walkability of more intimate urban spaces like Stephen Avenue are lost when the discussion centers squarely around economic benefits.
Unfortunately in Calgary we have a very strong imbedded culture of commerce and efficiency with little regards for the more intangible and longer term benefits of preserving a space such as this.
Unfortunately in Calgary we have a very strong imbedded culture of commerce and efficiency with little regards for the more intangible and longer term benefits of preserving a space such as this.
outoftheice
Active Member
I would push back on that point a little bit. I would agree that from a purely economic perspective this development would be good if it weren't for the fact that the City of Calgary is currently spending tens of millions of taxpayer dollars to remove excess office space from the downtown inventory. This project is going to add a significant amount back in which means by approving it, Council will be working against their own economic objectives, of which they are spending (and plan on spending) significant amounts of taxpayer dollars to achieve. It's crazy to me and hopefully a point the press picks up on if this project nears approval.
outoftheice
Active Member
Looks like a more formal opposition to this project is starting up. I had heard a revised application was supposed to have been submitted by the end of September but haven't heard anything further. Anybody else hear anything similar?
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