Scotia Place | 36.85m | 11s | CSEC | HOK

[darwink]

Tempe has a bit of an incentive in that the Valley is a multi-city metro area and if they get development that Mesa or Scottsdale would have gotten instead, they benefit -- although the net effect to the region overall is negative.

Bingo. And it assumes over time Tempe doesn't have to eventually pay for extra infrastructure or services they otherwise would not have had to.

 

[Mountain Man]

I’m not convinced the community arena is necessary, and it seems to me it’s more of a benefit to CSEC.

If it can function in a similar capacity as the Corral did, I think it's a win. I got to play beer league at the Corral a bunch and it was always cool. Not nearly enough rinks in this city, especially downtown.

 

[CBBarnett]

If it can function in a similar capacity as the Corral did, I think it's a win. I got to play beer league at the Corral a bunch and it was always cool. Not nearly enough rinks in this city, especially downtown.

It would be kind of funny if we ended up with a new corral as well after all this.

We are even replacing one swoopy roof in the Saddledome, with another in the BMO Centre.

Even the total amount of parking appears to be staying quite similar.

Over a billion in funding, all the politics and drama, and we appear to have got ourselves back to where we started in Stampede Park - albeit with bigger, shinier facilities and more of that contemporary, never-will-be-outdated 2020s vibe instead of the outdated 1980s look

 

[Ramsayite]

a city with a larger parasite population

What does that mean?

 

[Golfing guy]

What does that mean?

I’d think people that don’t live in the city but work or do leisure things. Use the infrastructure and services but don’t pay taxes directly to the city….ie live in Airdrie but work in Calgary

 

[The Familia]

I just realized, isn’t the expanded footprint of the arena now taking up the land that was supposed to be a new opera house? Wonder if that project is dead, and if not, where they would build it.

 

[UrbanWarrior]

I noticed that this morning actually. Was reading about the Sam Centre and looked at the Youth Campus site plan, and yeah the location of the proposed Opera Centre is going to have a road going through it now I’m sure they’ll just relocate it. The spot to the northeast of the Sam Centre along the river would be gorgeous for a performing arts space.

 

[FCC1982]

I think the Opera House plans were completed and it actually went to tender a few years ago.
Starting over on a new site now I guess.

 

[Poppa777]

So has there been any hints on when some renderings will be released?

 

[Roaring Flames]

So has there been any hints on when some renderings will be released?

The definitive agreements won't be signed until the provincial money is approved which won't be until after the election. Then the existing design will likely need to be at least partially redesigned to match the expanded scope of the project so it'll be quite a while before we get a proper render

 

[Poppa777]

The definitive agreements won't be signed until the provincial money is approved which won't be until after the election. Then the existing design will likely need to be at least partially redesigned to match the expanded scope of the project so it'll be quite a while before we get a proper render

Sooooo...s pace.

 

[Roaring Flames]

Sooooo...s pace.

Probably almost 1 year of redesigns, agreements, planning, and DP application and then 2 ½ - 3 years of construction with the completion being in 2027

 

[YYCguy]

Probably almost 1 year of redesigns, agreements, planning, and DP application and then 2 ½ - 3 years of construction with the completion being in 2027

Seems optimistic. And that’s if Smith & Co get re-elected. Imagine the stalling if The Notley Crew become government again!

 

[CalgaryTiger]

Seems optimistic. And that’s if Smith & Co get re-elected. Imagine the stalling if The Notley Crew become government again!

The arena didn't become the political win Danielle was hoping for, people have moved on (see the provincial politics thread (Yikes Danielle!)). I think the NDP scrutinize the deal but that it goes through. All the griping about provincial money when really they could just package it as infrastructure spending. At least in my uninformed opinion.

 

[haltcatchfire]

Seems optimistic. And that’s if Smith & Co get re-elected. Imagine the stalling if The Notley Crew become government again!

I don't think the NDP takes too long to agree to allow the funding for the underpass, green line, 25th Ave intersection, lane reversal infrastructure, misc. public surrounding infrastructure. The plaza and community arena is grey area which could be an issue but don't see a situation where they snag the progress over that.

The remainder is between CSEC and the CoC and would just proceed with a placeholder space for the community arena and do the rest.