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Go Elevated or try for Underground?

  • Work with the province and go with the Elevated option

    Votes: 8 72.7%

  • Try another approach and go for Underground option

    Votes: 2 18.2%

  • Cancel it altogether

    Votes: 1 9.1%
  • Total voters
    11
YYCguy said:
The Smith government has indicated that no more money from provincial coffers will be used for the Green Line, including cost overruns. So she indicated that changes to the scope may need to be made. But didn’t the province make their funding commitment years ago on the condition that the plan couldn’t be changed? And now that’s okay? This would make the proponents of the downtown elevated portion happy, but piss off all the people/businesses that rejected that option in the first place.

In addition, she wants to have the Green Line plan attached to the regional rail plan. What are the pros and cons of this directive?
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so you could weave things together and somehow think that this means the province would be fine with ending the line at 4th St SE.

There are other options, like going elevated in the beltline to save a boatload of money, since the arena station will need to be huge.

In the end, that is only a problem if the contract can't deliver.

In which case, why did the city sign the contract at all?

If they signed the contract knowing they had a failed procurement, my word, what incompetence.
 
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I just wonder what we will do with the already ordered LRVs that aren't compatible with our current system if the greenline falls through....
 
ahuch said:
calgary.ctvnews.ca

Province won't pony up additional Green Line cash

Alberta's premier wants to see Calgary go back to the drawing board on its massive Green Line LRT project.
calgary.ctvnews.ca calgary.ctvnews.ca

Not looking good for north of Eau Claire.
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Wow... 'Back to the drawing board' and saying the committed money is contingent on the rail plan. This thing is underway and yet I am not 100% sure it will happen.

Smith says the tunnel is the mistake, but the reality is it would be a mistake to not do the tunnel. I hope they are willing to do what is right for the long term but as I said I really have my doubts. That Green Line update that's coming is going to be a doozy.
 
darwink said:
The option was dismissed entirely after the owners of towers downtown raised concerns. There are difficulties of course with elevated, the primary being the height needed to cross over the CPR (14 meters over top of rail is what the crossing at Sunalta is)
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Sounds like the Green Line might be at grade (or hopefully elevated), if the province gets its way.
 
Dārayavauš said:
Sounds like the Green Line might be at grade (or hopefully elevated), if the province gets its way.
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So there could be some trade offs to get this thing back on budget and operational. Is it worth it to ditch some or all of the tunnel in favour of track elevation to get the line from Eau Claire (versus the event centre) all the way to the South Health Campus (versus Shepard) as envisioned? I can’t say which is the more important outcome.

Also I note that Smith says “there’s no more money for Phase 1”, so does that mean when Phase 2 (crossing the river and getting up North) comes into play, she might be convinced to offer more funding for Phase 2?
 
Dārayavauš said:
Sounds like the Green Line might be at grade (or hopefully elevated), if the province gets its way.
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It is totally possible to be elevated in the beltline and then below grade for crossing under the CPR and downtown. That has been my preferred option for a long time though I kinda assumed things were locked with the proponent.

Perhaps they are truly dialoguing it to reduce cost with the proponent, which is a great thing tbh if the city hasn't structured the contract incredibly poorly.
 
I knew it! I knew that Invermectin guzzling crank would do this! I called it before. Integrate with the Province’s master rail plan? Let me guess a train to her riding in Medicine Hat and down to High River?

And wtf is Dreeshan doing as a minister again anyways? Alcoholic Maga frat boy lost his position under Kenney. Of course Smith promotes the most unqualified and incompetent, corrupt and shitty MLA’s.
 
YYCguy said:
Also I note that Smith says “there’s no more money for Phase 1”, so does that mean when Phase 2 (crossing the river and getting up North) comes into play, she might be convinced to offer more funding for Phase 2?
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The future phases would definitely need provincial money as going north is expensive. If the river crossing is killed now a future phase from Eau Claire to 64th Avenue is probably going to cost more than $2B. And the City is pretty tapped out paying off its share of the capital and financing costs for Stage 1 for the next 30+ years as well as needing new money to pay for its net operating costs.

I could see Alberta (regardless of who's premier) and Canada getting together to fund major LRT projects in the late 2020s, when Edmonton's Valley Line West is nearing completion and (if) GL Stage 1 looks on track. Though for Calgary, there'll probably still be battles over whether that money goes to the GL, for other LRT extensions or the airport connector.
 
accord1999 said:
I could see Alberta (regardless of who's premier) and Canada getting together to fund major LRT projects in the late 2020s
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This will happen. The infrastructure fund post 2027, we won't have the slimmest of details until at least the fall, more likely the spring.
 
Updated MSF design. Mostly the same except with chunks chopped off and put to future expansion
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