Frontier | 30m | 8s | Truman | S2

[adamyyc]

I think a lot of consumers are avoiding large format stores because they are inconvenient. There will always be a place for the Walmarts and Costcos, but honestly, for day-to-day grocery shopping, who wants to wander around these massive stores, where it takes longer to complete your shopping and is often more difficult to find what you’re looking for. I fail to see the benefit of these larger stores, which is variety. It’s largely the same products, just more rows of it, unless you’re looking to shop for clothes and decor at the same time you buy your groceries.

 

[trtcttc]

I think a lot of consumers are avoiding large format stores because they are inconvenient. There will always be a place for the Walmarts and Costcos, but honestly, for day-to-day grocery shopping, who wants to wander around these massive stores, where it takes longer to complete your shopping and is often more difficult to find what you’re looking for. I fail to see the benefit of these larger stores, which is variety. It’s largely the same products, just more rows of it, unless you’re looking to shop for clothes and decor at the same time you buy your groceries.

Recently listened to a podcast about Trade Joes and how having a couple options seems to be more effective than having many option, as people end up not buying due to indecision and the feeling of abundance. Shelves aren't as deep on these smaller stores so items look more limited. I do appreciate these small format stores are the discount chains. They're not as common in Calgary, but other cities have these Loblaw's City Markets, and Sobey's UrbanFresh, which are more pricey versions of the big chains. Can't say no to convenience and discount prices!

 

[trtcttc]

Some photos from the weekend, they installed the black roof elements. Would be fine if the windows were clear, but the green windows, brown balconies, and black roof is not great.

Might be the angle from the ground but those balconies look pretty slanted.

 

[O-tac]

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Some photos from the weekend, they installed the black roof elements. Would be fine if the windows were clear, but the green windows, brown balconies, and black roof is not great.

Might be the angle from the ground but those balconies look pretty slanted.

I don’t actually mind the colours, but holy moly those balconies do look slanted. Is it for water drainage? That cantilever looks scary. Would be nervous using those if I was a resident.

 

[trtcttc]

I don’t actually mind the colours, but holy moly those balconies do look slanted. Is it for water drainage? That cantilever looks scary. Would be nervous using those if I was a resident.

Pure speculation but I can't imagine balconies are meant to drain like that? During freeze-thaw cycles, that's going to be so dangerous for anyone walking below.

 

[O-tac]

I’m still trying to figure out if it’s an illusion or actually slanted that much.

 

[Mountain Man]

Pure speculation but I can't imagine balconies are meant to drain like that? During freeze-thaw cycles, that's going to be so dangerous for anyone walking below.

They definitely look to be slanted for drainage. The typical slope is 2%, these look more like 4-5%

 

[trtcttc]

They definitely look to be slanted for drainage. The typical slope is 2%, these look more like 4-5%

For the typical 2%, doesn't that form icicles at the edge? For high-rises, how do they avoid hitting people on the ground?

 

[Mountain Man]

For the typical 2%, doesn't that form icicles at the edge? For high-rises, how do they avoid hitting people on the ground?

Icicles are less of a concern than expected, but they do happen sometimes. The balconies above typically block a good amount of the snow landing on the balconies, but never all of it. Icicles that do form are typically small. Large icicles are more of a concern over a warm space as the heat melts the snow from below, that why you can get the very large icicles on your eave. Also, being exposed to the wind helps prevent large icicles from forming on balconies.

 

[trtcttc]

I’m still trying to figure out if it’s an illusion or actually slanted that much.

the top right one actually looks more slanted in real life than the picture shows, and more slanted than the ones below.

 

[O-tac]

The walls look really slim for a cantilever as long as that no? Or is it just additional reinforcement in the floorplate?

 

[trtcttc]

The walls look really slim for a cantilever as long as that no? Or is it just additional reinforcement in the floorplate?

They're frames for the side glass. There's some completed on the West side, it's just 4 panels of glass.

 

[O-tac]

I meant the structural walls of the building.

 

[trtcttc]

I meant the structural walls of the building.

The glass wall? This one is concrete and I think that's why they could do the glass curtain wall.

 

[Mountain Man]

The walls look really slim for a cantilever as long as that no? Or is it just additional reinforcement in the floorplate?

The slab cantilevers, the walls are not a factor. Relative to the size of the floor, the cantilever is really not a big deal, the rule of thump is 2/3 supported, 1/3 cantilevered, this would be relative to where the closest column / beam line is.