Courtyard 33 | 21.64m | 6s | RNDSQR | 5468796 Architecture

[Silence&Motion]

The ARP is as binding and as enforceable as City Administration and City Council want it to be, and you're right, it is frustrating when these planning policy documents are put in place and then ignored. I am not convinced that the situation will be any different with these new district Local Area Plans that the City has begun to develop. Time will tell.

It's best to think of ARPs not as laws that must be followed to the letter, but rather as a formalized set of community expectations that provide part of the framework for negotiations around individual development projects. Shaping the terms of debate is important.

 

[DougR]

It's best to think of ARPs not as laws that must be followed to the letter, but rather as a formalized set of community expectations that provide part of the framework for negotiations around individual development projects. Shaping the terms of debate is important.

Huh -- here I was thinking that ARPs were viewed by the development community as a formalized set of community expectations that provide the starting point for negotiations around individual development projects -- particularly regarding issues such as maximum height and FAR.

 

[Mountain Man]

ARPs are a guideline, nothing more. The Land Use Bylaw is what needs to be followed. I'm not sure if the recommendations of an ARP ever make it into the next bylaw, think the current version is 2007.

 

[MichaelS]

ARPs are statutory (ie, mandatory) council approved documents, usually through bylaw. However, there does seem to be a high use of "may" instead of "must" in them, and "should" instead of "shall".

 

[Beltline_B]

ARPs are statutory (ie, mandatory) council approved documents, usually through bylaw. However, there does seem to be a high use of "may" instead of "must" in them, and "should" instead of "shall".

Yeah, they do seem to be more of a guideline. There are pros and cons to the 'guideline' approach. A pro for me is that each development gets looked at individually.

 

[adamyyc]

Signage in the window for one of the main floor commercial spaces for “the MASH” (https://masheats.ca/).

 

[Atticus]

Signage in the window for one of the main floor commercial spaces for “the MASH” (https://masheats.ca/).

Restos are always a good addition to any neighborhood.

 

[Alex_YYC]

The rainy day look.

 

[Alex_YYC]

 

[Alex_YYC]

I feel that if they took away the panels covering the courtyard entrance it would brighten up the entrance immensely, and the metal catwalk and stairs would give a bit of extra character and detail to the building.

 

[The Familia]

Are they going to finish those concrete columns in the front at all, at least paint them? Looks like he child of Edmonton’s library.

 

[Zoom]

I feel that if they took away the panels covering the courtyard entrance it would brighten up the entrance immensely, and the metal catwalk and stairs would give a bit of extra character and detail to the building.

If the paneling covering the courtyard entrance was recessed by 1' that would also make a difference. It would highlight the entrance to the courtyard.

 

[shermanator]

Signage in the window for one of the main floor commercial spaces for “the MASH” (https://masheats.ca/).

Despite my frustrations with how this building has turned out, I will damn sure be hitting up the Mash. My wife and I talk about going to the one in Kensington every time we are in the neighbourhood.

 

[Just build it]

The more I look at this building, the more I think one simple change could make a difference, and it's something that can be changed later at some point. Change the balcony railings to be either glass or metal bars style. Either one would double the size of the windows and change the entire look of the building. The building's okay, but it's so close to being a very cool building.

 

[Mountain Man]

Are they going to finish those concrete columns in the front at all, at least paint them? Looks like he child of Edmonton’s library.

I see a 45 degree chamfer on the corners of the concrete columns, and that is done on areas where the concrete will be exposed (reduces chipping if something hits the concrete) so I would guess that they will be painted.