17th and 4th | 164m | 46s | Vesta | Zeidler

[AJX]

Are the residential towers intended to be rental?

They're going to assess the market at the time those phases come and will decide on rental or condo.

 

[AJX]

It has a retro loft look to it. I see very little that reminds me of 432 Park. In that case, Drake and Smith are somewhat reminiscent of Central Park buildings.

I see the same similarity that Evolv sees in 432 Park. It's the first building I thought of when I saw the design.

 

[maestro]

It's always fun to make comparison to really tall, worldly towers. IMO, The only similarity is the white framed concrete and there's a huge number of those around.



https://www.google.ca/maps/@40.7614...9bLSDO5iMigemRAIsQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1

The windows, the multi floor openings, the balconies are all so different.

 

[Surrealplaces]

New activity as per MichaelS' post.

Well, looks like another large Beltline project is moving forward. Grovsner is in with their land use application for their project at 17th Ave and 4th street. Involves a heritage density transfer from 2 other sites, and a max FAR of 8.2.
https://developmentmap.calgary.ca/#property/LOC2017-0175

 

[Always_Biking]

I had forgotten all about this guy. Glad to see movement on it.

 

[Operater]

Hi Group,
I take it the Office Tower will B the 1st Phase? If so when does that Start? I take It the Two Condo/Apt Towers will Come Later. Is there a Revised Picture of the Project Available as Yet? Not sure if there is a Website Up yet but would B interested to Know.
Tnx,
Operater.

 

[maestro]

It's just a land use application. I also don't see anyone investing too much in office space.

 

[Surrealplaces]

New renderings have been updated on page 1. I was told the DP will be submitted very shortly, and that this was intended to start in early 2018......time will tell.

As far as the phase 1 office building, I've been told the developer wants to do that now while the office market is down, as they can do it without impacting tenants. As this office glut drags on they may change their mind.

Hi Group,
I take it the Office Tower will B the 1st Phase? If so when does that Start? I take It the Two Condo/Apt Towers will Come Later. Is there a Revised Picture of the Project Available as Yet? Not sure if there is a Website Up yet but would B interested to Know.
Tnx,
Operater.

 

[MichaelS]

The DP is in:
https://developmentmap.calgary.ca/#property/DP2017-2886

2 buildings, 547 units.

 

[Beazley66]

Thanks for this MichaelS. I'm a little confused. Stantec was the applicant? Did I miss something?

 

[Surrealplaces]

IIRC MB was the design architect but Stantec was involved, probably as the main architect.

 

[Beazley66]

Thanks Surreal! Very interesting.

 

[Surrealplaces]

Thanks Surreal! Very interesting.

At the open house back in March, they had some people from MB and Stantec there.

 

[Always_Biking]

I had trouble deciding between good and very good. the design of the towers is conservative and rates a 'good' imho, but the recladding of the office building and the extra retail with the awnings, etc.. is a huge improvement. almost makes it a 'very good'

 

[IanBray]

IIRC MB was the design architect but Stantec was involved, probably as the main architect.

What ever happened to MODA being attached to this project? I personally thought their design was far superior than the current renderings.