Mountain Man
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This measles outbreak is proof positive of that!
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Alberta Provincial Politics
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trtcttc
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I got the vaccine last year and plan to this year, and I do support vaccine mandates when we are in a health emergency. But the recommendation from NACI is far less strong and they only recommend the access, rather than the giving of the shots to healthy individuals not at increased risk. I think "May" should mean being able sign up to receive at no cost, but it's far from recommending shots for everyone.
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Valid as of January 10, 2025: Summary of the National Advisory Committee on Immunization's guidance on the use of COVID-19 vaccines for 2025 to summer 2026.
O-tac
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The UcPee cites RFK Jr’s HHS department’s ‘recommendations’ on covid vaccines on the AHS website. Think about that. They aren’t citing Health Canada. Fuck Danielle Smith! I hope she catches ebola or something.
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CalgaryTiger
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The UCP never hesitate to rail against other levels of government for not staying in their lane, this party and their leader are all over the road. Nenshi has not been an affective opposition, we're capital F, Fucked! Now and I'll say even in this next election. Nothing seems to stick to the UCP or their leader. I'll give them credit though, they're very good at keeping their base on side, no matter how offside they are of people who don't vote for them anyways, they never go so far as to turn off their base.
O-tac
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The old school big tent PC types like Guthrie at least are turning. And the extreme fringe that are turning to the Alberta Republican party. I agree Nenshi’s been pretty invisible. He needs to find his passion again. His clear annoyance and snark towards Smith hurts more than helps though it is fully understandable to feel that way,
trtcttc
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Do you have a source? Seems like these sources are all citing Health Canada.
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As we get closer to the election I suspect we'll hear more from Nenshi, but I agree, he's been pretty quiet for the most part.
If I were Nenshi, my spin would be playing to the parallels with Smith/UCP and MAGA. The UCP has had a fair bit of support here in Calgary due to many people (rightly or wrongly) thinking it would be better for the economy or oil industry, but a lot of those voters don't like Trump and Maga.
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Mountain Man
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Helped the Liberals defeat PP
CalgaryTiger
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There is an economic argument to be made against the UCP. I mean even ATCO came out and said WTF to the separation stuff the UCP was pedalling. The problem is the NDP making that argument is hollo to any economic voter.
It is interesting that people are not tired of the almost constant stories coming out of the UCP good and/or bad. Normally people get tired of hearing from their politicians, somehow she seems to escape that criticism.
It's really those two reasons why I think there will be an election sooner than later: NDP not being seen as having a credible economic argument, and Smith's ability to just be unscathed by anything.
Not to mention that fact that the political right isn't divided so the NDP will be the boogeyman. The UCP can easily renew their mandate and stay in power, they'll need a reason to go early, and I think Carney might give them a reason. Whether it is even a slight opposition to a UCP/"Alberta" ask or even if he gives them everything the UCP will want to sell an election as a strengthening of the UCP/"Alberta" position.
It is interesting that people are not tired of the almost constant stories coming out of the UCP good and/or bad. Normally people get tired of hearing from their politicians, somehow she seems to escape that criticism.
It's really those two reasons why I think there will be an election sooner than later: NDP not being seen as having a credible economic argument, and Smith's ability to just be unscathed by anything.
Not to mention that fact that the political right isn't divided so the NDP will be the boogeyman. The UCP can easily renew their mandate and stay in power, they'll need a reason to go early, and I think Carney might give them a reason. Whether it is even a slight opposition to a UCP/"Alberta" ask or even if he gives them everything the UCP will want to sell an election as a strengthening of the UCP/"Alberta" position.
Mountain Man
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I think the right is quite divided, Ms Trump just seems to be holding it together. I'm curious if the proposal to resurrect the PC Party will gain any traction. The UCP seems to control that name still, so it will be interesting to see what happens.
Agreed about the economy. I'm not saying the UCP is necessarily better for the economy, but there are voters who feel that way, some of those people I know personally, but I also know they don't want to leave confederation, and don't want separate pensions etc.. They also hate the tariffs. I think the NDP can win over those types of voters if they can keep up with the comparisons of the Smith/UCP to Trump/MAGA.
O-tac
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It was on the site when we went to order Covid shots for the kids. My wife was the one who found it. It was a comment that ‘healthy kids’ don’t require the shot which cited the US department headed by RFK without naming him.
trtcttc
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It's hard to get any traction as opposition leader. Most people in other provinces probably can't even name their opposition leaders. Rachel Notley spent her career building her name recognition, Nenshi has the benefit of Calgary knowing him, but hard to do much this far from an election.
They'll need to lose control of the right flank. If there is a serious separation referendum (to most everyday people not watching politics closely, it is not serious yet), and actual changes to the CPP, there will be more splits of the traditional PC. It's also important to note, the UCP have already lost a lot of PC voters to the NDP. Notley had a higher percentage of the vote in 2023 than she did in 2015. So the PC base isn't all in the UCP anymore, but spread across UCP and NDP, which means they won't get traction unless they have a very appealing candidate or can differentiate themselves, which I don't see the two MLAs doing.
trtcttc
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I went through the booking process and was unable to find the link. I disagree with this vaccine policy but it's not some MAGA/Trump conspiracy.
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