CT (Chinese_T)
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Maybe they saw what Vesta is proposing down the street and went back to the drawing board 
The Sentinel | 24m | 6s | Arlington Street | Jackson McCormick
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zzkwilliamcanada
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I like your guessMaybe they saw what Vesta is proposing down the street and went back to the drawing board
bgarneau
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Mentioned in their investor update today - breaking ground Q1-2025, so the ski cellar is seasonal in nature as suspected
Albertasaurus
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I am hoping the Sentinel DP will need to go to Planning Commission. If that happens, there's at least a bit of opportunity for it to be sent back for some further work. It's just not up to par for such an important intersection. Even Truman's new DP in Carrington (at the edge of town) looks better than this.
haltcatchfire
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Tough to break ground with a building in the way. That should slow them down.
MichaelS
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Albertasaurus
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/\Fair point, and I would agree with you if I believed this proposal was actually a 6/10...
Why wait for a 10 when you can have five one 2's.
CBBarnett
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Are we all talking about the same proposal here? The original one was pretty rough and had bad street Interfaces. The second one was a lot better.
No it’s not an icon, but the second version fits that 6 or 7 out of 10 for this area I think. Lots will depend on materials, but the form is reasonable.
No it’s not an icon, but the second version fits that 6 or 7 out of 10 for this area I think. Lots will depend on materials, but the form is reasonable.
UrbanWarrior
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It's at best a 4. No at-grade retail at 17th and 14th is crazy.
CBBarnett
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But isn't it though? The project website lists 28,000 sqft of retail as part of this. Ignoring the inaccurate street lights and other sloppy rending nonsense, it appears there's lots of retail. I am not an overall fan of the development, but I feel it does enough right to get a pass. To each there own of course - I would have loved a crisper rendering and some solid dark brick instead of this white stuff. But the form appears good enough and not car-oriented.
https://www.arlingtonstreet.ca/developments/the-sentinel/
UrbanWarrior
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Whoops! Okay I'll give'r a 6 then
Woosh
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They definitely nailed what it feels like to be a pedestrian at this intersection though.
Gullfoss
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I don't think the market would have been there for a high rise in this location. It's not super desirable. The city tried to entice asi with a bunch of free density, but the economics were such that 6-storey wood-frame made more sense. How is bronco's building doing?
Albertasaurus
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I'd be fine with the wood frame if the design was better. Enzo is turning out great, and Broward looks good as well (based on the renders at least). Some of the best cities in the world - including big European cities like Paris and Barcelona - are comprised almost entirely of mid rise forms. Perhaps part of the problem is the renders, but I'm just not feeling things at street level. That internal walkway could be a neat little feature if it has some CRU's as well, but I'm not getting a sense of how it will work. And I'm really not liking the Easy Plank shit on the exterior - the brick on Enzo looks so good, why can't they do that here?