BKha
Active Member
I like it. I'm not as concerned as much about the design of the building, so much as the use it will provide.
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General Construction Updates
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CBBarnett
Senior Member
I honestly can't believe the Flames came up with this. Their original 10 years of behind the scenes work produced a final product that was little more than a half-sketched, non-nonsensical plan presented by rambling, out of touch 65 year old with a 97-2003 version formatted powerpoint.
This single rendering might win a Governor's General award compared to their crayon and construction paper first attempt.
darwink
Senior Member
The same company did Calgary next renderings and has some nice renderings of it up on their website.
Meikkhaell
Active Member
Do you have the link? Just curious
JonnyCanuck
Senior Member
Long story short-
- An educated populace drives prosperity. And it drives it for every income group (higher wages, lower unemployment)
- The target demographic to attract is 25-34 year olds with at least a 4 year college degree. They are the most likely to move between cities.
- This demographic group shows a preference for living in close, urban neighbourhoods
Thoughts?[/QUOTE]
I agree with this study. I do believe that well paying professional jobs in oil & gas, and supporting industries, were attracting well educated 25-34 year olds to Calgary from other cities. Those job opportunities have declined significantly over the last 3-4 years. You probably have people in that demographic all over the country that want to move here, but are unclear about their prospects for the future.
That is why it is baffling to me, why the spike in rental residential construction in the inner city. Who are these people who are moving into the inner city when the job market is so uncertain? Are they native Calgarians wanting to move out of the suburbs? If so are they living in the inner city but working outside of it?
- An educated populace drives prosperity. And it drives it for every income group (higher wages, lower unemployment)
- The target demographic to attract is 25-34 year olds with at least a 4 year college degree. They are the most likely to move between cities.
- This demographic group shows a preference for living in close, urban neighbourhoods
Thoughts?[/QUOTE]
I agree with this study. I do believe that well paying professional jobs in oil & gas, and supporting industries, were attracting well educated 25-34 year olds to Calgary from other cities. Those job opportunities have declined significantly over the last 3-4 years. You probably have people in that demographic all over the country that want to move here, but are unclear about their prospects for the future.
That is why it is baffling to me, why the spike in rental residential construction in the inner city. Who are these people who are moving into the inner city when the job market is so uncertain? Are they native Calgarians wanting to move out of the suburbs? If so are they living in the inner city but working outside of it?
Beltline_B
Senior Member
Nice find @UrbanWarrior. I'm viewing from my phone so I can't tell exactly where the address is for this, but sounds close to the station.
My preference is for the two towers of 18 and 26 floors.
My preference is for the two towers of 18 and 26 floors.
Beltline_B
Senior Member
We were attracting that target demographic with the booming economy. What Calgary needs is more homegrown students. Young people fresh out of school with a degree are the most likely to move as they are in search of jobs, but there are always a percentage who want to stay in their hometown.
gsunnyg
Senior Member
So Im assuming no real pedestrian interaction on street level? Project sounds like a good density boost but IMO, that whole area should be left alone for another 10-20 years or so. We should come back to it with a masterplan after Victoria park and East Village are nearing completion. Which is why I wasn't a big fan of the West Village arena proposal. Its our last underdeveloped area remaining in the city centre. Id sure like it to be something unique decades from now like a smart city neighbourhood or whatever revolutionary urban concepts comes forward in the future.
MichaelS
Senior Member
The Sunalta project is Bronconnier's project. It went to CPC a while ago, it was posted then. Here is the link to the City's engagement website:
http://www.calgary.ca/PDA/pd/Pages/...going-activities/Housing-One-application.aspx
the CPC date was August 23rd, agenda here, item 7.2.8:
https://pub-calgary.escribemeetings...f6-f2266b4d20df&Agenda=Agenda&lang=English#38
Proposed building schematic:
https://pub-calgary.escribemeetings.com/filestream.ashx?DocumentId=64287
And Sunalta does have a master plan, it is called the Sunalta ARP:
http://www.calgary.ca/PDA/pd/Documents/arp-asp/arp/sunalta-arp.pdf
http://www.calgary.ca/PDA/pd/Pages/...going-activities/Housing-One-application.aspx
the CPC date was August 23rd, agenda here, item 7.2.8:
https://pub-calgary.escribemeetings...f6-f2266b4d20df&Agenda=Agenda&lang=English#38
Proposed building schematic:
https://pub-calgary.escribemeetings.com/filestream.ashx?DocumentId=64287
And Sunalta does have a master plan, it is called the Sunalta ARP:
http://www.calgary.ca/PDA/pd/Documents/arp-asp/arp/sunalta-arp.pdf
UrbanWarrior
Senior Member
Oh dang, so the taller of the two towers would be about 90 meters tall. Pretty decent, but a bit tall for being that close to the river.
UrbanWarrior
Senior Member
Is that Beacon?
It is indeed.
Patrick.1980
Active Member
A good density hit for that area, and also would be awesome to see development on that side of 10th ave, including retail.
I watched the video that was included in the links. It appears the land use change was approved?
I watched the video that was included in the links. It appears the land use change was approved?
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gsunnyg
Senior Member
its an area development plan like Banff trail not a detailed master planned community like East Village where plots of land are designated for certain designs/uses. I still like the towers no objection there. Im just saying long term we can come back to it with a more innovative approach which includes the greyhound station. I'd like the remainder of the beltline and East village+Victoria park fill out first. Just my preference.