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Urban Development and Proposals Discussion

A disappointment for sure. I would be okay with the generic Shoppers' at the base if they had a few floors of apartments on top. I can't help but wonder how much underground parking played a role in their decision to keep it a one story plaza?
 
Bridgeland was getting some nice density the last few years but now every proposal along the Main Street is just replacing old buildings with a similar scale new building.
 
Less interesting architecture, low rise density, and with a purpose to try to drive the local indie shop out of business, what's not to hate?
Not a fan of this one for these reasons, but still it’s doing something so rare - a new pedestrian-only retail development on a Main Street.

I’m starting to think a bit differently about density on Main Streets - if it’s walkable, who cares if it’s a single storey? Density can go a block off or anywhere else nearby. Completes the Street but simpler and not reliant on larger projects, that come with larger risks, more issues, more fickle market demand.

More density, mixed use, and just a better programming/design aesthetic would be preferred, but I will compromise and encourage single-storey chain retail if it is pedestrian-centric.
 
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More pathway related, but also general urban development related.
Thanks for the link.

What a stupid piece of engagement.

It's a systemically important connection, connecting the Elbow and Bow pathways.I regularly ride through there, and the open pathway on the west bank of the Elbow is too narrow and is badly deteriorating. This link is even more important given that the cycle entrance to the downtown via 12th Ave/4th St E is continuously being changed (and removed) due to Green Line work. It's also a vital pedestrian connection under the CPR between Inglewood and Ramsay, which is important since the closure of 8 St. It obviously needs to be built, and there's no real question about it on the engagement page.

It's 400m of pathway, in an incredibly constrained site (below the bridges, above the Elbow, on a 10-20m wide strip of land with a steep side slope). There's a real limit on what could plausibly be done here, and there's already a design on the engagement page. So there's very little value that could possibly be gained from engagement.

What could possibly be accomplished by engagement on this project, other than six months of delay and a box ticked?
 
Given the confluence, First Nations consultation is extra necessary, so not like other consulting is extra time, just simultaneous. The delay is minimal and known versus the risk of an unknown length of delay and unknown chance. When the city is doing things, it is better to consult.
 
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Thanks for the link.

What a stupid piece of engagement.

It's a systemically important connection, connecting the Elbow and Bow pathways.I regularly ride through there, and the open pathway on the west bank of the Elbow is too narrow and is badly deteriorating. This link is even more important given that the cycle entrance to the downtown via 12th Ave/4th St E is continuously being changed (and removed) due to Green Line work. It's also a vital pedestrian connection under the CPR between Inglewood and Ramsay, which is important since the closure of 8 St. It obviously needs to be built, and there's no real question about it on the engagement page.

It's 400m of pathway, in an incredibly constrained site (below the bridges, above the Elbow, on a 10-20m wide strip of land with a steep side slope). There's a real limit on what could plausibly be done here, and there's already a design on the engagement page. So there's very little value that could possibly be gained from engagement.

What could possibly be accomplished by engagement on this project, other than six months of delay and a box ticked?
Shouldn't this be combined with extending the RiverWalk along the west bank of the Elbow? The west bank will require some sort of berm for flood control that I would expect to influence the design of the east bank
 
Given the confluence, First Nations consultation is extra necessary, so not like other consulting is extra time, just simultaneous. The delay is minimal and known versus the risk of an unknown length of delay and unknown chance. When the city is doing things, it is better to consult.
Is consultation actually required any more so than it would be on any other municipal park land? I agree it would be respectful to do so. I shudder to think of the nightmare of having to consult on changes to any municipal or provincial parkland.
 
Is consultation actually required any more so than it would be on any other municipal park land? I agree it would be respectful to do so. I shudder to think of the nightmare of having to consult on changes to any municipal or provincial parkland.
Required is an interesting thing. Could it involve changing the watercourse, yes. Is it close to a major cultural/spiritual site? Yes.

My gut says a court would block work if there wasn't an attempt and a FN filled for an injunction. Also other levels of government would block funding for it, and block other necessary permits.
 
Isn't there going to be some indigenous site at Ft Calgary? Given that, some consultation should happen, but I feel like we are moving towards consultation on almost any public project, whether it affects first nations or not.
 

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