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Urban Development and Proposals Discussion

Calgcouver

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Great project! Ogden sure has a high concentration of supportive and low income housing, it is good to see this integrated within the fabric of the community. Really hope this moves forward.
The Beltline's urban churches that tore down all those homes over the years for parking lots should consider looking to Ogden for some ideas.
 

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The Beltline's urban churches that tore down all those homes over the years for parking lots should consider looking to Ogden for some ideas.
There have been some discussions with some of them over the years, but nothing seems to get past the preliminary concept phase.
 

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There have been some discussions with some of them over the years, but nothing seems to get past the preliminary concept phase.
It's a big concept over the years in Toronto and Vancouver, among many other cities. Urban church parking lots are an enormous waste of space and value.

44-storey condo + church redevelopment (Toronto)
https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/20...esidents-praying-for-construction-relief.html

104 unit social housing + church redevelopment (Vancouver)
https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/2025-east-12th-avenue-vancouver-lakewood-multicultural-united-church

a good article on some examples/how-to of churches selling air-rights to sustain themselves (Vancouver)
https://churchforvancouver.ca/churches-are-making-use-of-the-airspace-above-their-buildings/

another good one that goes in to depth of the $3B in church properties of the Lower Mainland (Vancouver)
https://niho.com/houses-of-the-holy-in-vancouver-a-union-of-church-and-real-estate/

A couple key points from the articles:
  • "Utilizing building space is about good [community] stewardship "
  • Development partnerships a way to solve "land rich / cash poor" issue of many organization
  • Most try to keep the church's community presence as part of new development, while improving sustainability for major repairs and upgrades
  • Ability to link organization goals to development outcomes (e.g. social housing, community rooms etc.)
 

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There's a sign up at the former KFC on 17th Ave about retail bays coming soon.
Probably some type of reconfiguration, as Lease Co is similarly doing on Centre Street with this building.
The Popeyes was hit by an extra nasty property tax increase when the owner redesignated the land use for a future redevelopment project but due to the triplenet lease, left the leasee with the costs of that tax wise-I wonder if the KFC underwent a similar process.
 

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I read that the land use application was approved but it was noted that there is no LRT station planned for that area, which might make residential development less attractive. Apparently adding a station to an existing line costs $100 million.
 

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