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For the Toronto figure, is it based solely on the city of Toronto? Sometimes these comparisons aren't apples to apples because what a "city" includes is different. Calgary has dowtown, suburbs all in one. Whereas Toronto, Peel/York/Durham is really part of the same region. Their density will still be higher by far, but I think it'll actually be lower than Montreal.
It’s all CMA populations so it’s comparable and includes all suburbs within the CMA.

I didn’t bother isolating for the city proper, it’s more work than time I had - but I don’t know if it would reveal anything more interesting. There’s no magical way to slice things to pretend the cities are more similar than they are, Montreal and Toronto just have vastly, vastly more people (and a far larger proportion of people) living at those high densities.

Montreal is interesting from my table, it actually has a higher proportion of people living in high density than Toronto (obviously both very high). For those that have been there it’s pretty clear why - so much of the city is in pre-car plex development all at very high densities. Being the largest city in Canada for 300 years has its advantages for these kind of analyses.

can’t read too much into a single analysis like this - but perhaps it’s one small piece of evidence to the often stated claim that Montreal feels more “urban” and has more of a big city vibe than many parts of Toronto, despite a much smaller population.
 
It’s all CMA populations so it’s comparable and includes all suburbs within the CMA.

I didn’t bother isolating for the city proper, it’s more work than time I had - but I don’t know if it would reveal anything more interesting. There’s no magical way to slice things to pretend the cities are more similar than they are, Montreal and Toronto just have vastly, vastly more people (and a far larger proportion of people) living at those high densities.

Montreal is interesting from my table, it actually has a higher proportion of people living in high density than Toronto (obviously both very high). For those that have been there it’s pretty clear why - so much of the city is in pre-car plex development all at very high densities. Being the largest city in Canada for 300 years has its advantages for these kind of analyses.

can’t read too much into a single analysis like this - but perhaps it’s one small piece of evidence to the often stated claim that Montreal feels more “urban” and has more of a big city vibe than many parts of Toronto, despite a much smaller population.
Thanks, I didn't realize all the population were CMA level. Toronto is definitely a swing between extremely high density and single family homes. Really evident the massive drop off around major transit stations like Eglinton.
 
Thanks, I didn't realize all the population were CMA level. Toronto is definitely a swing between extremely high density and single family homes. Really evident the massive drop off around major transit stations like Eglinton.
What you’ll find is the massive drop-off is often still far denser than Calgary’s drop off. Calgarys early suburbs (1960s - 1980s) are remarkably low density compared to many other cities on average, unless they are redeveloping.

Don’t have the data in front of me, but recall much of Calgary in that 2,000-5,000 people /sqkm, whereas “low density” in Toronto and Vancouver is more often that 5,000-10,000 people /sqkm. so even in low density, often these other cities are 2-3x as dense.

Main factors seem to be Calgarys relatively large setbacks, relatively large transportation right-of-ways, and high dispersion of parks and vacant space all over. The result is fewer census tracts able to “compensate” with population, when so much land has been dedicated to empty things (not always a bad thing of course, people like parks, for example).

This is changing - Marda Loop style infills are wide spread and getting dense enough to actually start moving the needle in some areas. But again, it’s only now that Calgary is reaching the higher densities in more places. Other cities have been there for 125 years already.
 
Here's my take on densities, a similar but slightly different analysis. I calculated densities with three changes; I used buffered dissemination area dwelling unit density. The reasons:
  • Census tracts can be quite large and often contain non-residential land, such as parks or employment areas. DAs are smaller so this effect is much less.
  • However, DAs are so small that sometimes they are quite silly; there's one that's only the inside of a single townhouse complex in Bridlewood. It's as dense as Kensington, but that's not meaningfully dense living. So I used a buffer around the DA (centroid-to-centroid), calculating the densities for the DA plus all others within a buffer (actually three buffers - 250m, 500m and 1km and averaged the three) to produce a measure of the density in context.
  • Further, I find that dwelling unit density is more meaningful for the 'feel' of urbanity than population density; inner cities have smaller households, and two suburbs can feel very similar -- but one has a lot of empty nesters and one has a lot of multigenerational families. A 5 person household does use more resources or make more trips than a single person household, but likely not 5x as much.
One thing that all of these density measures are missing is any non-residential information; downtown Calgary has relatively low density because the tall office towers pushed out all of the residential buildings. That's a problem everywhere (in Canada; other Anglosphere statistics agencies release employment information that can be used in density measures).

The cutoff that is roughly 10K people per sq km is 5.5K using this measure; I broke densities into seven bins to capture more detail.
  • Low density (<100): Rural, industrial and park land as well as exurban-style country residential and the like. 8% of CMA population
  • Suburban low (100-1000): Either relatively large lot (e.g. 10K sq ft) suburbia (up to about 4 units per acre) or somewhat more traditional suburbia with a lake, golf course, ravines, etc. 28% of CMA population.
  • Suburban high (1000-2000): More 'typical' suburbia as we think of it; the largest category - around 38% of CMA population. 73.7% of CMA residents live in these first three categories.
  • Semi-urban low (2000-3500): Common in pre-1930 or so communities, or in areas with substantial townhouse/midrise populations. 12.7% of CMA population.
  • Semi-urban high (3500-5500): Approaching the high-density line; 14-22 units per acre. Requires multifamily, even if just walk-up apartments. (6.6% of pop)
  • Urban low (5500-10000): High density but not necessarily tower-based. (4.9% of pop)
  • Urban high (10,000 and up): High density, pretty much requiring towers to achieve. (2.2% of pop)
Here's a map of Calgary to give you a sense of what these categories look like:
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A closeup of the inner city including all of the DAs in the top 3 categories:
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Here's how the major CMAs stack up in these categories by share of population:
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One interesting takeaway is how similar Calgary and Edmonton are with the low rate of Semi Low (white). I suspect this is because we grew much faster than other places; both Calgary's and Edmonton's 1931 population was ~4% of our current population, where it's around 8-12% in most of the places on the chart above, 14% in Toronto and Hamilton, 16% in Montreal and 21% in Winnipeg and Halifax.

We also have a low amount of population in the lowest density areas; I suspect that the big 3 are so low because they've basically filled up their CMAs and there's not much rural land included, but we have plenty of rural land -- but it's just very sparsely populated both because of our late population growth and because we're so dry that a workable farm/ranch is just a lot more acreage than elsewhere.

Here's what the big 3 look like as maps:
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You can see how Montreal has a massive area of that high density -- a plateau if you will - but it's at a lower intensity than the tower-filled cores (and some suburban nodes) of Vancouver and Toronto. Montreal is also the leader in the third tier of near-high density.

Of course, the percentages hide how many more people are in high density in the big 3; here's the share of people at high density (the top 2 brown and dark brown categories) by CMA with the big 3 split into the two top categories.
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It is going to be really interesting and exciting to see how these density numbers increase come the next census. There's been a lot of construction and development of mid-rises, towers, and especially row-houses across the city in between the past 2021 Census and the 2026 census. I would not be surprised if there was a fairly significant increase of density across the city; an example of this increased density could be Bankview, South Calgary, and the northern part of Altadore as I would not be surprised if those areas of the city would be considered Semi-urban high (3500-5500) by the next census. Bankview, South Calgary, and Altadore already feel like the densest part of the city outside of Downtown + the Beltline, and had some of the highest concentration of development in the past half-decade.

The 2026 census is going to be really exciting for tracking increasing density across Canadian cities, Calgary especially!
 
The difference between Calgary/Ottawa and Edmonton is stark. That's why Calgary and Ottawa are often compared while Edmonton is in a different league
Interesting. I lived in Ottawa for a number of years prior to moving to the Beltline (I have since moved) and Calgary always struck me as being in a different league than Ottawa in terms of scale. Living in the Glebe, Ottawa always seemed more like a large (nicer) Winnipeg than anything else.
 
What you’ll find is the massive drop-off is often still far denser than Calgary’s drop off. Calgarys early suburbs (1960s - 1980s) are remarkably low density compared to many other cities on average, unless they are redeveloping.

Don’t have the data in front of me, but recall much of Calgary in that 2,000-5,000 people /sqkm, whereas “low density” in Toronto and Vancouver is more often that 5,000-10,000 people /sqkm. so even in low density, often these other cities are 2-3x as dense.

Main factors seem to be Calgarys relatively large setbacks, relatively large transportation right-of-ways, and high dispersion of parks and vacant space all over. The result is fewer census tracts able to “compensate” with population, when so much land has been dedicated to empty things (not always a bad thing of course, people like parks, for example).

This is changing - Marda Loop style infills are wide spread and getting dense enough to actually start moving the needle in some areas. But again, it’s only now that Calgary is reaching the higher densities in more places. Other cities have been there for 125 years already.
The transportation right of way is definitely a factor. Most of Toronto and Vancouver's suburbs don't have large setback arterial roads like Shaganappi, Sarcee, John Laurie. And where they intersect, the amount of land used is huge.
One big thing I noticed with the @ByeByeBaby's density maps is how we have not built around transit at all. If you look at Vancouvers orange spots, Toronto, and I'm not sure about MTL, there's so much development near transit. Even places like North Hill, Brentwood/UofC, are green or dark green. Doesn't help most of our transit is built in highway medians or at the border of residential/industrial land like the NE.
 
I agree Vancouver is more dense, I just think that feeling of it being closer to Toronto than Calgary is to Vancouver, isn't necessarily accurate. I grew up near the Kerrisdale neighborhood in Vancouver, and now live near Kensington, and it feels pretty similar.
Agreed. Everything is relative. Vancouver feels bigger and more urban than Calgary, and maybe on a ‘ratio’ a higher urban ratio (population ratio to urban feel), for lack of better wording.
Toronto feels much bigger than Vancouver and to me has a higher ‘urban ratio’. For a city roughly double the size it has like a three or four times the urban intensity.
Then you go to New York, it feels worlds bigger than Toronto. In general it seems the bigger cities get the higher the urban ratio.
I think Calgarys ‘urban ratio’ is still catching up, but it I would say it’s progressing nicely. Definitely intensifying more than Ottawa and Edmonton, and Winnipeg, and it shows in the numbers, as Calgary’s downtown population as well as adjacent neighborhoods has surpassed those other cities in the last 20 years.
 
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Foothills MD doesn’t have enough population to substantially make an impact. The difference between Canada’s 2nd tier cities (Calgary, Edmonton, Ottawa) is less than 10% approximately — all much closer to each other compared to Vancouver. Growth rate will be key though with Ottawa falling behind this decade.
Are you thinking of Foothills MD only, or including the municipalities in it? Combined it’s about 85k. That’s 5% of the current CMA population, so I would consider it substantial.
 
Housing starts for first half of 2026 (Jan-Jun). Calgary was the leader instead of the usual 3rd place. Not a total shock as Toronto and Vancouver are in slowdowns waiting for inventory to fill before the next building boom. The stat that always sticks out to me is Ott/Gat. It's been very low, not just lately, but for a couple of years now. Not sure what the story there is.

CitySFHsemirowapartmenttotal
Calgary354812121966798614712
Vancouver9445888631037612771
Montreal6171794261147012692
Toronto1465641625942112575
Edmonton34487081599511310868
Ott/Gat77615079247016419
 
Wow, Toronto fell behind Montreal and Vancouver for apartment starts. Their multi market really has taken a huge hit. And all 6 markets are building more apartments - in most cases, a lot more - than they are singles and semis. I wonder if the ratio would be different for some of the mid size cities (Winnipeg/Hamilton/Quebec/KW, etc)

You can also see how Calgary's market is moving into oversupply, even with the robust population growth which appears to be continuing even with the federal immigration changes.
 
Wow, Toronto fell behind Montreal and Vancouver for apartment starts. Their multi market really has taken a huge hit. And all 6 markets are building more apartments - in most cases, a lot more - than they are singles and semis. I wonder if the ratio would be different for some of the mid size cities (Winnipeg/Hamilton/Quebec/KW, etc)

You can also see how Calgary's market is moving into oversupply, even with the robust population growth which appears to be continuing even with the federal immigration changes.
Toronto and Vancouver both have a a lot of apartment inventory. Once it's eaten up, it'll be crane city again. The fact that Calgary has been in the mix for the past two years, and is leading this year shows the consistent growth. Great numbers for a city this size, and also the balance of the numbers. SFH, Semi, and Rowhome roughly equaling the apartment numbers is good. Apartments are good density boosters, but it's nice to have some diversity in housing builds.
 
I recall hearing that a problem with Toronto and Vancouver's housing markets is that they are all in on small units in highrises, but there's a lack of larger units appropriate for families. Even with all the construction happening in those cities, they're not addressing the core needs in their housing markets.
 

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