Albertasaurus
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Kingston, Ontario has 6 penitentiaries. If penitentiaries cause a huge spike in crime, shouldn't Kingston have a sky high crime rate?
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Calgary's Downtown Dilemma
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InfrastructureEnthusiast
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It's just more kope/kvetch from one of the most brain drained cities in the anglosphere.
If current trends keep up, I think some day in the not so distant future we're going to have to have grown up conversation on whether some Canadian cities really need to continue existing in their present form.
If Canada is going to maintain an environmentally responsible path, then were going to have to evaluate whether expending the resources required to maintain a settlement of over a million people in a dismal, energy intensive climate is the responsible thing to do.
Other than the refineries and arguably the airport, what other assets are there that couldn't be better located in places with better climates, like Kamloops, Lethbridge or Regina?
Not picking on Edmonton here, many of the same arguments could be made for Ottawa too. Or any
cities that have simply outlived their intended usefulness.
trtcttc
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That's how you get ghost cities built in the middle of no where. Amazing traffic management, clean streets, modern buildings, beautiful amenities, but no people. Cities are more than just people living in buildings, and not something you can just relocate somewhere else.
thommyjo
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lol. Most of North America would say the same about Calgary…
What an asinine comment.
Yeg and yyc are both about 36% bachelor degrees… so where’s the brain drain?
And suggesting a city of 1.6mil should shutdown, then naming a bunch of towns with 5-10% of the population… like what?
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InfrastructureEnthusiast
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More like 41 vs 33 according to this link, and I'm guessing the gap widens when filtered for STEM degrees.
The Most Educated Cities in Canada 2025
Canada’s brain drain has a new direction—into its own cities. Fresh census tables reveal that knowledge workers are clustering at record speed, reshaping local economies from coast to coast. The Most Educated Cities in Canada
www.universitymagazine.ca
Interestingly, ignoring Ottawa/Gatineau as their stats are skewed due to lack of industry, the top 3 most educated cities are Vancouver, Victoria and Calgary.
If you don't want to bother scrolling down that far, Edmonton is #15
What part of environmentally unsustainable wasn't clear? Think of all the energy and electricity that goes in to heating and lighting a city of that size that dwells in frosty darkness for so much of the year.
That's electricity and energy that could be used by data centers to create AI videos of cats doing funny things instead. Are you really trying to say that a million people stubbornly sticking it out in the cold is more important than that???
InfrastructureEnthusiast
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I don't think we're talking about the same city..
InfrastructureEnthusiast
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Back onto the actual thread topic, I think it would be a reasonable near term goal for the city to break up the drop in center into smaller facilities dispersed in the quadrants, and demolish the building by the time the arena is complete.
Plenty of other pieces to the puzzle, but that facility is holding back development in the area too much, and separate facilities could help a lot with triage of people into more specialized support programs.
As for the housing / relapse problem that was seen in medicine hat, I think the missing ingredient there was purpose.
Giving someone down on their luck a safe place to live is great, but without a renewed sense of purpose, the despair slowly returns and bad habits are easy to resume.
I suppose at one point a solution could have been getting the people who qualified for government housing support jobs with public works or the like, but now that everything is contracted and subcontracted things get trickier.
Maybe government construction or maintenance contracts could come along with a requirement to hire <X> number of people from the subsidized housing pool?
Plenty of other pieces to the puzzle, but that facility is holding back development in the area too much, and separate facilities could help a lot with triage of people into more specialized support programs.
As for the housing / relapse problem that was seen in medicine hat, I think the missing ingredient there was purpose.
Giving someone down on their luck a safe place to live is great, but without a renewed sense of purpose, the despair slowly returns and bad habits are easy to resume.
I suppose at one point a solution could have been getting the people who qualified for government housing support jobs with public works or the like, but now that everything is contracted and subcontracted things get trickier.
Maybe government construction or maintenance contracts could come along with a requirement to hire <X> number of people from the subsidized housing pool?
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UrbanWarrior
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Lmao! What the fuk did I just read?
potatopizzafan
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Some fantastic satireLmao! What the fuk did I just read?
