Scotia Place | 36.85m | 11s | CSEC | HOK

[Stephen Ave]

I'm down with the @ShotArch version.

 

[UrbanWarrior]

Hmmm… that gave me a maybe not so great idea, but an idea nonetheless.

For a name “Scotiabank Chinook Arch” or “Telus Arch” or given the display screen showing the northern lights “Scotiabank Aurora” or something unique.

 

[Roaring Flames]

It'll probably be called [sponsor name here] Centre. So I think we should come up with a nickname for the arena like "The Box" or something.

 

[Calgcouver]

It'll probably be called [sponsor name here] Centre. So I think we should come up with a nickname for the arena like "The Box" or something.

I would be comfortable calling it the D-BOX (as in the Cineplex D-BOX seats), as I can't tell if it is a movie theatre or not.

 

[1875]

think CP already named it the stapler

 

[haltcatchfire]

think CP already named it the stapler

Staples Centre is freed up.

 

[ByeByeBaby]

Forbes recently came out with their estimates of NHL team values. The Flames are #18 at $680 million; the Oilers are #7 at $1,100 million. The article says that the new arena is a big reason for the Oilers to be so highly valued; I suspect without the new arena they'd be pretty similar to Calgary -- similar sized markets, similar quality of team. So that's around a $420 million US ($530M CDN) increase in value. The Islanders started this season in a new arena, and their value went up $430 million from the previous year. Good thing we're giving the CSEC $300 million, so they can get $500M in value back.

 

[UrbanRED]

Forbes recently came out with their estimates of NHL team values. The Flames are #18 at $680 million; the Oilers are #7 at $1,100 million. The article says that the new arena is a big reason for the Oilers to be so highly valued; I suspect without the new arena they'd be pretty similar to Calgary -- similar sized markets, similar quality of team. So that's around a $420 million US ($530M CDN) increase in value. The Islanders started this season in a new arena, and their value went up $430 million from the previous year. Good thing we're giving the CSEC $300 million, so they can get $500M in value back.

I'm fairly close to the TV deal negotiations for the Oilers/Flames, and I hate to say it, but the Oilers fanbase is substantially bigger than that of the Flames

 

[Roaring Flames]

I'm fairly close to the TV deal negotiations for the Oilers/Flames, and I hate to say it, but the Oilers fanbase is substantially bigger than that of the Flames

The Oil have had a ton of generational talents in the NHL and won 5 cups so it's no surprise that the Flames have the smaller fan base.

 

[UrbanRED]

The Oil have had a ton of generational talents in the NHL and won 5 cups so it's no surprise that the Flames have the smaller fan base.

Yeah, partially a carryover from the Gretzky era and partially a result of McDavid/Draisaitl today

 

[Roaring Flames]

Forbes recently came out with their estimates of NHL team values. The Flames are #18 at $680 million; the Oilers are #7 at $1,100 million. The article says that the new arena is a big reason for the Oilers to be so highly valued; I suspect without the new arena they'd be pretty similar to Calgary -- similar sized markets, similar quality of team. So that's around a $420 million US ($530M CDN) increase in value. The Islanders started this season in a new arena, and their value went up $430 million from the previous year. Good thing we're giving the CSEC $300 million, so they can get $500M in value back.

The Oilers value.
-$455 million in 2015
-$445 million in 2016
-$520 million in 2017
-$540 million in 2018
-$575 million in 2019
-$550 million in 2020
-$1.1 Billion in 2021

The Flames value.
-$435 million in 2015
-$410 million in 2016
-$430 million in 2017
-$450 million in 2018
-$500 million in 2019
-$480 million in 2020
-$680 million in 2021

 

[1875]

The Oilers value.
-$455 million in 2015
-$445 million in 2016
-$520 million in 2017
-$540 million in 2018
-$575 million in 2019
-$550 million in 2020
-$1.1 Billion in 2021

The Flames value.
-$435 million in 2015
-$410 million in 2016
-$430 million in 2017
-$450 million in 2018
-$500 million in 2019
-$480 million in 2020
-$680 million in 2021

the value of failure. or but to be fair, the discount of having your head up your ass for 20yrs.

 

[darwink]

Forbes recently came out with their estimates of NHL team values. The Flames are #18 at $680 million; the Oilers are #7 at $1,100 million. The article says that the new arena is a big reason for the Oilers to be so highly valued; I suspect without the new arena they'd be pretty similar to Calgary -- similar sized markets, similar quality of team. So that's around a $420 million US ($530M CDN) increase in value. The Islanders started this season in a new arena, and their value went up $430 million from the previous year. Good thing we're giving the CSEC $300 million, so they can get $500M in value back.

It isn’t like the owners can cash in that value. Maybe Forbes think a new arena will generate an extra $30million in free cash flow a year for the Oilers - $45 extra a ticket or so.

Also have to discount Calgarys potential ‘bump’ for the contribution from the club which doesn’t exist in Edmonton’s case.

 

[Mountain Man]

I'm fairly close to the TV deal negotiations for the Oilers/Flames, and I hate to say it, but the Oilers fanbase is substantially bigger than that of the Flames

I always tell people the Oilers are like 95% of the civic identity of Edmonton, the Flames are maybe 10% of Calgary lol.

 

[O-tac]

It'll probably be called [sponsor name here] Centre. So I think we should come up with a nickname for the arena like "The Box" or something.

I will refer to it as the HP OfficeJet Pro.