darwink
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There was at least one option I remember with 200 kph passenger rail mixed with freight on two shared tracks, both entirely rebuilt. Might have been the JetTrain CPR alignment?
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Calgary Regional Rail Transit
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InfrastructureEnthusiast
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I can see something like that working really well for the planned regional lines, Jasper, GP, FtMac, etc, but not for Cal/Edm.
IMO getting between downtowns in ~1hr would be the prime feature of the whole system, and if it isn't done right the first time, it never will be...
Not sure why some are concerned about the nose creek corridor for access to DT Cal? Seems pretty straightforward to me from the plans that have been released so far.
The much more complicated and expensive part of the project will be the part between YEG and DT Edm.
If the intent is to have a fast train, then it has to be as direct as possible, and I can't think of any way to do that in Edm that wouldn't be enormously disruptive and costly. Very interested to see what the province's plans are for that..
darwink
Senior Member
The province owns the ROW on the bridge across the north saskatchewan and corridor from the legislature to the existing CPR line.
InfrastructureEnthusiast
Active Member
Well that's a good start! But that bridge is on it's last legs, and I can't see anything other than an underground route working in Strathcona.
Add the semiactive rail yard south of whyte and at least two other grade separations (34/51av) and the costs and complications start to stack up!
Really makes nose creek and a viaduct through Inglewood look simple in comparison..
trtcttc
Senior Member
For leisure destinations like Banff/Jasper, I can see the using freight tracks. But for CGY/EDM, I hope they build dedicated tracks. If you've ever taken the Via on the main corridor, freight takes priority so there's regularly delays and sometimes multi-hour delays.
Passenger trains not rolling on time: Why Via blames CN
Warnings of delays on the arrivals and departures board at Via Rail’s Montreal Central Station are now happening at historic levels.
www.ctvnews.ca
MichaelS
Senior Member
I can see the Banff train's biggest user base being commuters in/out of Banff, who find more afforadble housing in Cochrane. Hopefully it is still reliable, to help facilitate that.
CalgaryTiger
Senior Member
I think there is pretty substantial opportunity to do some TAZA-like residential/town development at the interchange with the Casino on Highway 40. Banff and Canmore are quite unaffordable, creating a satellite hub for residence and tourists to explore the national park and everything down highway 40. Couple it with consistent reliable train service and that hub could allow people to work in Calgary and live next door to Kananaskis.
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CalgaryTiger
Senior Member
Uh oh looks like Danielle's husband might of went to crease on the forecheck a little to hard.
CalgaryTiger
Senior Member
Triple post but here we go...
I reread the airport rail study webpage either they rewrote it or I misread it before.
"The findings of the study will be presented as a briefing at the Infrastructure and Planning Committee on January 8, 2025. The final technical report is expected to be completed by Q1 2025 and shared with the Government of Alberta, to support the development of the Passenger Rail Master Plan."
We are never going to see the final technical report. All we are going to get is a briefing note and those VERY high level lines on a map.
I reread the airport rail study webpage either they rewrote it or I misread it before.
"The findings of the study will be presented as a briefing at the Infrastructure and Planning Committee on January 8, 2025. The final technical report is expected to be completed by Q1 2025 and shared with the Government of Alberta, to support the development of the Passenger Rail Master Plan."
We are never going to see the final technical report. All we are going to get is a briefing note and those VERY high level lines on a map.
FCC1982
Active Member
Reposting this here from the Calgary Transit thread:
I really don’t like the idea of connecting YYC to the Blue Line as our “Airport Connection”.
I hope they decide on an express route from the airport to downtown via the west side of Deerfoot. Something along the lines of what this group is proposing:
friendsofcabr.com
I really don’t like the idea of connecting YYC to the Blue Line as our “Airport Connection”.
I hope they decide on an express route from the airport to downtown via the west side of Deerfoot. Something along the lines of what this group is proposing:
Calgary Airport Banff Rail Route
The Calgary Airport – Banff Rail project intends to have seven stops along the 150km route, built on a dedicated line ensuring on-time performance. The rail will be built within the CP Rail corridor and on Calgary Airport Authority’s lands.
friendsofcabr.com
Nawads
Active Member
Ideally, we have both. You connect to the blue line with regular transit fares, and the express line to downtown can cost 10-15 dollars for the added convenience.Reposting this here from the Calgary Transit thread:
I really don’t like the idea of connecting YYC to the Blue Line as our “Airport Connection”.
I hope they decide on an express route from the airport to downtown via the west side of Deerfoot. Something along the lines of what this group is proposing:
Calgary Airport Banff Rail Route
The Calgary Airport – Banff Rail project intends to have seven stops along the 150km route, built on a dedicated line ensuring on-time performance. The rail will be built within the CP Rail corridor and on Calgary Airport Authority’s lands.