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It could be with the second phase still needing over $150M even after the recent large private donation, the design could be pushed out since they wouldn't be able to start construction on it for many years...

The modernization is the second phase for the Arts Commons Transformation projection. The new building is the first phase ($270M) and is fully funded. https://www.calgarymlc.ca/projects/arts-commons-transformation?sheet=b8b8cf216967

That's really all it is. A tiny bone for the NC in 2021 to take away attention from the Bow crossing likely not going to be be part of Stage 1.

The best source I've found is the North BRT functional study that was presented to council in 2021 (Attachment 2 especially) which presents some numbers and breakdown of short to long-term improvements and their costs...

You can't just look always at the long-term, you also have to consider the short-term and medium-term ROI. You're spending more than a generation worth of transit capital funding for a cut-down segment that doesn't fulfill any of the Green Line business case priorities (replaced overloaded buses...

I've seen estimates of property value declines of up to $160M. But as this twitter poster notes, given the likely difference in cost today between tunnel and elevated, it would probably be much cheaper just to pay off the property owners for that "loss". And to make up for it, charge an extra...

At some point you can't have the hard part continuously eat up all the funding so you can't do any other part and have no immediate benefit. And they've been using this excuse since 2017. What they should have saw was "doing less with more" as the gamble. I was surprised that Alberta...

The lack of planning or past spending makes it very hard to switch to this direction, no matter how much it makes more sense based on ridership. Given the animosity in 2019-2021, I'd expect that Alberta warned Calgary that it would support it but it wouldn't tolerate any more reduction in scope...

A possible clue about when the decision to switch maintenance facility comes from the submitted development plans for the Shepard facility. The most recent submission was on May 23, with plans (that significantly shrunk the facility) dated to May 2. So that would suggest the decision was...

But the reason why we are at 10 years of planning work, is that lots of work done 8-10 years ago have been chucked out by the Green Line team and/or no longer valid due to the steep rise in costs. We've discussed the Bow River crossing before, didn't the Green Line effectively replaced years of...

The full details are probably only available in the confidential meetings, but yeah the 60% design plan was only presented in June. It would seem unlikely that any significant contracts would be signed, especially knowing about the major scope change that would need approval not just from...

The source for that table comes from this 100 page report on the North Central LRT corridor from December 2014: https://pub-calgary.escribemeetings.com/filestream.ashx?DocumentId=10325 As part of the Transportation and Transit committee meeting which focused heavily on the North Central LRT...

It's not just about austerity. Even for a very wealthy region and where every taxpayer understand and agree that transit doesn't need to pay for itself (or even come close) we still should worry about ROI and opportunity costs. Spending so much on the Green Line also affects all of the other...

Or maybe it's just transit and transportation enthusiasts discussing how to fix a project with a $13B appetite but currently only a $6B budget? It also shouldn't just be the downtown and SE. I find it quite funny that there can be years where there is not a single update (or even peep) about...

It would be possible, one option that was looked at was elevated in DT to bridge and relatively shallow tunnel under Centre Street. It shouldn't be too expensive given the depth (estimated in 2015 at $800M vs $1.3B for full tunnel). However, it's hard to imagine that anything will change the...

That's the section of tunnel they already cut in 2020. There's more details in my post at #2510.

Have you looked at some of the parts of the SE? It also runs through the middle of places that few people live that everybody has to drive to and from. But for some reason, that's never a big deal for it. Meanwhile NC LRT has do both high transit ridership, have every station be within range of...

It was an estimated $1.8B savings in 2021, it's probably higher now given how much money was slated to be spent in DT. And the Green Line plan also wouldn't go north and would still require billions to get to Seton first. Making cuts in the quality of an alignment because it simply costs too...

But it's not being paid for now. Centre Street on paper does have many advantages, but if it's so good and North Calgary already having high transit ridership why did it lose out to the SE in 2017? And why has it consistently been on the bottom in terms of priority, with no work or land...

But there is a significant difference between: 1) A planned $20B project, where every stakeholder from governments, areas affected and the public beforehand understand the true cost, why certain decisions were made, what are the priorities and that there are viable construction and funding...