Nimbus
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Not sure who is behind it, but there is a project out there for one of the blocks on 5th avenue adjacent to Riley Park looking to go 12 storeys.
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The Harriet | 40m | 12s | Dobbin Consulting
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outoftheice
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Are there any shadowing protections for Riley Park? I'm all for continuing to add density in this area but at the risk of sounding like a NIMBY, I also don't want to see anything that diminishes our limited inner city parks.
FCC1982
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^Hear hear - I second that !
Nimbus
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South side of Riley park already has those tall trees, so I think a building to the south will cause minimal shadowing during the sunniest times of the year (and some may even seek out that shade). With plenty of park to the north that can still soak up the sun. I think 12 storeys should be the max for those remaining lots on 5th.
Nimbus
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Update on this one, the Dobbin Consulting group has some preliminary information up on this including massing and shadow studies for the proposal.
The Harriet on Riley Park - Dobbin Consulting Inc.
dobbinconsulting.ca
KensingtonLurker
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I'm not sure if this has been posted yet, but I guess this flyer recently went out.
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There was a bit of discussion about it in the Urban Development thread, and I've copied the posts over to this thread. I've also updated the thread with some heights and floors and Dobbin Consulting as the developer even though they are consultants These are added to the title as place holders based on the land use application. This is so the thread shows up in the overall Skyrisecities.com forum. The details will probably change as the proposal evolves.
jdixon
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Dobbin Consulting is one of the major landlords for commercial space in Kensington, despite the name. Perhaps they're acting as both developer and consultant?
AK452
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There's an open house for the Harriet project on Friday Jan 16 2025 at 6:30 pm, at Hillhurst Sunnyside Community Association. The same website has some new material. As previously mentioned, the rezoning app is for 40 m 12-storeys. FAR 6.0 for up to 199,000 sq ft of development. The developer is still undisclosed developer, and it says the architect has recently changed, although existing documents show DAAS Architecture. Here are a few images from the new material.
Personally, I'd need some convincing about 12 storeys just south of the Riley Park, which is popular and well-used. The shadowing is only part of it, there's also the looming mass. Neighboring Ezra is 8 storeys and Vic is 6. Both integrate well with the park and don't dominate it. I actually like how the tall buildings in Bridgeland overlook the park, but they have considerably more buffer room.
Personally, I'd need some convincing about 12 storeys just south of the Riley Park, which is popular and well-used. The shadowing is only part of it, there's also the looming mass. Neighboring Ezra is 8 storeys and Vic is 6. Both integrate well with the park and don't dominate it. I actually like how the tall buildings in Bridgeland overlook the park, but they have considerably more buffer room.
Nimbus
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Yeah, I'm still good with that height at the location. It won't even be noticed by the majority of park users during the busy season, and won't even provide shade on the south edge of the park on the really hot days.
1875
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beautiful spot, deserves a quality project
I'm okay with 12 floors. Any more would be pushing it but judging by the shadow maps, it seems the height won't have much affect.
CBBarnett
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Thanks for sharing these updated diagrams. Could you elaborate on what you mean about shadowing and "looming mass"? What's the difference?
My position on this one remains that height and shadows are a bit of a red herring, distracting the conversation from more material ground-floor improvements and how to actually make the park better rather than just less shadowy sometimes of the year. Previous post on shadowing is here.
Mountain Man
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I'm good with the height and scale here and I like how they included the shadows for the trees in their diagram. The units on both sides of this development will have great views as well!
I think he just means the perception of the mass of the building looming over the park for those using the park.
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Always_Biking
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12 floors is doable I think. Ezra is 8 floors, but doesn’t shadow the park. In the summer there are times when I wish there was some extra shade.