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Urban Development and Proposals Discussion

Love them but hate to say it will be place for the homeless to sleep at night.
They will sleep there at night, and huddle around there getting stoned all day. I feel like that sand will be a hazard for needles too! What a sad time this is, anything quasi decent is viewed from how much the zombies will use it as opposed to the general public.
 
They will sleep there at night, and huddle around there getting stoned all day. I feel like that sand will be a hazard for needles too! What a sad time this is, anything quasi decent is viewed from how much the zombies will use it as opposed to the general public.
It's sad but true. No one is really serious about solving the homeless/opioid crisis...and this is why we can't have nice things.

Glass panels on the Peace bridge? Nope
Want to sit down at a bench in C-Square in East Village? No way.
If you're a woman and want to check your phone at City Hall C-train station? Don't relax.

I have a co-worker from China and he is surprised by the amount of homeless people in Canada. He said that in Guangzhou you can walk the busy streets at any time of day and night and never feel unsafe, never see open drug use or never see homeless people.
 
It does feel like it. There will always be supply, even with harsher penalties, but maybe it would slow down supply enough to at least slow down the rate of new users, and help slow down the amount of new dealers? Right now there's not much of a deterrence to trafficking or supplying fentanyl. Someone got 16 years for tracking recently, but many of the sentences are like 6-10 years, which in Canada translates to about half that.

There's too much money vs an honest job for harsher penalties to discourage people to get in the business if the demand remains and also supply is in Canada. Keeping it out of Canada when a coffee can of Fentanyl is equal to a cube van of other drugs feels like an impossible endeavour.
 
Where are those of you who say we need some TOD?

350 Units coming to Franklin LRT. Ground breaking in 2026.

Of note 50 per cent of the units will be at below market value, and the mix of units will include three-bedroom configurations for families.

 
I have a co-worker from China and he is surprised by the amount of homeless people in Canada.
China is pretty harsh with their unhoused and drug addicted population. That's definitely one way you can deal with it.

Edit: For those who don't know... China has some of the harshest anti-drug laws in the world. Possession or trafficking of more than 50 grams of heroin, methamphetamine, or cocaine can result in the death penalty.

Recently a Canadian citizen was sentenced to death and executed because of drug possession. So yeah China doesn't have a drug problem.
 
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Recently a Canadian citizen was sentenced to death and executed because of drug possession. So yeah China doesn't have a drug problem.
Should also point out they are all Chinese-Canadian dual citizens, and China is one of the countries that don't recognize dual citizenship. There's at least one known non-Chinese Canadian that was sentenced to the death penalty for alleged drug trafficking, he's still alive.
 
China is pretty harsh with their unhoused and drug addicted population. That's definitely one way you can deal with it.

Edit: For those who don't know... China has some of the harshest anti-drug laws in the world. Possession or trafficking of more than 50 grams of heroin, methamphetamine, or cocaine can result in the death penalty.

Recently a Canadian citizen was sentenced to death and executed because of drug possession. So yeah China doesn't have a drug problem.
Huh...and their society doesn't have an opioid crisis. Interesting.
 
I don't think harsher sentences is the be all end all, but I have to believe it would help slow it down. The other side of the coin is the users, if the users are in jail or in rehab, there's less people to sell to. I suspect that's the case in countries like China. At the same time it makes you wonder how Scandinavian countries can have relaxed punishment for drug offenses, and still not have the issues we have.
 

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