Stampede Hotel | 45m | 12s | Truman | NORR

Surrealplaces said:
I've always expected the JW Marriott to downgrade to a lower brand once the agreement with Marriott ends - however long that term is. That is unless Katz wants to keep paying for that level of hotel, but I doubt he's getting good return for it.
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The rates/redemption for that is more comparable to a standard Marriott. It probably operates mostly like a standard Marriott. Hotel brands aren't very consistent. As they're typically individually owned and operated with licensing from a brand.
Globalyyc said:
Alberta needs a true five star hotel. Most of Alberta's known hotels are the historic Fairmonts (Banff Springs, Palliser). Great classic hotels, but they lack modern appeal.

Previously, I lived in a major metropolitan area and had strong relationships with the GMs of a few luxury hotel brands (Four Seasons, a modern Fairmont etc). These luxury hotels had just over 300 rooms. So, not sure why Truman is calling this a boutique hotel if it has about 300 rooms. It may be because of the number of f&b offerings. Luxury hotels will have 3 to 4 f&b offerings that are Michelin-level, a grand ballroom, swimming pool, spa etc.

I spoke with an exec at Four Seasons and told him that the brand should open in Calgary since Four Seasons is based in Canada. With the Vancouver location closed, there are only two Four Seasons left in Canada. He said that they are open to this market. I could see a true luxury level hotel coming to Calgary (hopefully within a decade).

Agree that JW in Ice District is the closest to modern luxury in AB.
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Calgary is in a weird spot. Most of the tourist draw is to the mountains, so if you are to build 1 Four Seasons, should it be in Banff? Or Calgary? And not all luxury hotels are very grand. The Park Hyatt in Toronto is a renovated historical building and the amenities are limited to a couple restaurants and a spa. I think they said boutique because it'll have some unique styling and the branding would likely be a JdV/Autograph, which is more upscale and not the true luxury, like a Four Seasons, Park Hyatt, Ritz.
 
Cowtown said:
This hotel would be the 8th new hotel for downtown Calgary in the last 7 years. It’s great to see the hotel industry that bullish on the downtown area.
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It is this that makes me think our tourism and business travel is increasing. These hotels are normally owned locally so they see the data that supports building more and more hotels. Next week they'll be another announcement for Stamped Station and then I'm sure there will be another one announced on or near the block of the new arena before it opens in fall '27.
 
Cowtown said:
This hotel would be the 8th new hotel for downtown Calgary in the last 7 years. It’s great to see the hotel industry that bullish on the downtown area.
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I’m trying to think of 8 downtown hotels, I can only think of 3. Dorian, Marriott Residence and the new in on 6th ave
 
JTron said:
I’m trying to think of 8 downtown hotels, I can only think of 3. Dorian, Marriott Residence and the new in on 6th ave
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Albertasaurus said:
The Germain in East Village, Westley near Eau Claire and the new residential conversion that just finished up are others.
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The new Stampede hotel and the other Hilton in EV would make it 8.

Quite a decent hotel boom for the downtown core, and it looks like another hotel announcement next week. Good times!
 
outoftheice said:
1st St SE (southbound Macleod Tr) is supposed to get a road-diet and a cycletrack installed within the next couple of years but you can bet your bottom dollar that project will become a fixation for the UCP who will vow to get involved and stop the bike lanes, Doug Ford style.
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First I've heard of this myself, but personally, I'm not a huge fan of putting bike lanes on busy commuter streets. I always prefer if they are on the quieter streets...makes for a safer/nicer experience for everyone.
 
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DiscoStu said:
First I've heard of this myself, but personally, I'm not a huge fan of putting bike lanes on busy commuter streets. I always prefer if they are on the quieter streets...makes for a safer/nicer experience for everyone.
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Ah the memories... the saga of the 1st Street SE idea dates back to the original cycletrack debates in the late 2000s.

It was proposed as a key corridor, but ultimately, it was sacrificed as a corridor to win over a few Council votes, resulting in the cycletrack being approved (and continues to be popular to this day).

The problem is that there aren't any corridors that aren't busy commuter streets to access downtown from the south. If we want cycling/scooter access to the central part of downtown you actually just need to reallocate some space (or build a new active modes only underpass, which from the debate on 11th is any indication, many Calgarians can't comprehend).

We only have 8 options to choose from, with pros and cons:
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  1. 11 Street SW: remote location too far west from major population or job clusters. Painted bike lane already, and relatively low importance to car traffic.
  2. 8 Street SW: busiest pedestrian and transit underpass into downtown, getting upgrades to include new cycling lane in the future. Moderately important to car traffic.
  3. 5 Street SW: central to jobs and population and has a cycle track already! Busiest non-river pathway segment of the cycling network - central to jobs and population. Great connectivity. Obvious in why it's so popular.
  4. 4th Street SW: great central location with hugely over-built car capacity, and no traffic scenario that can use all 4 north-bound lanes - a great candidate to repurpose space. problem is we don't need it - cycling lane is on 5th Street SW already.
  5. 1st Street SW: great central location, tight geometry and little space to work with though. Relatively unimportant to cars, but heavy bus traffic.
  6. 1st Street SE: great central location, space to work with. Important for vehicles, but so wide it actually doesn't need 4 lanes the whole way.
  7. MacLeod Trail SE: great central location, high car traffic with loads of turn movements both west and east.
  8. 4th Street SE: remote location away from population and jobs. Has cycling lane already.
When comparing all the factors, it's why 1st Street SE always floats to the top. It's central and has the capacity to reallocate a lane. Most traffic doesn't turn east bound, leaving the eastern lane relatively unimportant to maintain traffic flow. The whole corridor is 4.5 to 5.5 lanes wide, but due to inefficient design it only really needs 3 lanes to accommodate traffic.

With proper design and barriers it's a pretty good project.

The problem with 1st Street is well documented too - it doesn't "feel" that is can handle a bike lane to drivers or politicians.

"Putting a bike lane on MacLeod Trail" is seen as one of the most out-of-touch things someone can do, despite this 10 block stretch having the excess capacity for vehicles, high demand for bikes, and having nothing in common to the suburban car sewer that is in everyone's collective memory of "MacLeod Trail".

That's enough to kill it - anti-bike south Calgary suburban Councilors can always find a way to rally against it.
 
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