1875
Senior Member
cant recall if we have this render for 17th ave project
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Urban Development and Proposals Discussion
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CBBarnett
Senior Member
Goes back to funding. Can't use the EV/Vic Park CRL money over at 11th Street W. I agree 11th is a priority but connectivity as a whole in the core really needs to be addressed (to CMLC's point). You can't have a successful urban neighbourhood without better access. The city has done an extremely good job on river bridge connections for pedestrians, cyclists and transit over the past few decades, that same long-term and holistic approach needs to be applied to all heavy rail crossings. Really expensive of course - but chip away at them one or two per decade. It's crazy from a logistics, safety and convenience perspective that we have so many at-grade crossing in the core and elsewhere (11th Street, Highfield Road, 50th Ave S, 61st Ave S by Chinook, 17th Ave SE, Heritage Drive etc.)
IMO it's really another example of suburban projects being prioritized - or at least distracting budget attention - from obvious established area ones, centre city or otherwise. We built how many new interchanges in the burbs in the past decade? Surely a few established rail crossings would have ranked as a higher priority than a greenfield interchange with far better real delay/collision data supporting the necessity of grade-separation (from being there for literally forever).
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maestro
Senior Member
It's also one of the busiest because it is the only crossing within 6 or 7 city blocks. Where is everyone going to be diverted for the year or more needed to build an underpass there that doesn't blow the budget? Phasing the work with an open crossing is going to take a lot more time and money. You may get two underpasses for that price. Three city blocks between crossings creates to much of a dividing line between downtown and the Beltline
1875
Senior Member
good point but its only going to get worse where 5st wont see much traffic for quite some time
maestro
Senior Member
I'm a firmer believer in infrastructure before intensification. It's the right time to build the 5th street underpass. Worst case would be to postpone construction and end up with the same situation as the West End in 20 years time. Let's get the East Village right.
UrbanWarrior
Senior Member
haltcatchfire
Senior Member
Looks a bit prison like but at least they cut out the lens flares.
Doesn't look like something that should be associated with 17th ave.
I wish the rendering had lens flare...and lots of it. lol.
Atticus
Active Member
The city can look at doing a temporary crossing at 10th street while doing the 11th st as an underpass. 11th is busy and is becoming a safety issue.
MichaelS
Senior Member
Sarina Homes has submitted their next DP for the Marda Loop area. No details yet, but it looks like they are calling it 1800 in Marda Loop. There is an engagement event tomorrow at C-Space if anyone is interested:
https://engage1800.com/
Date: Saturday, February 09, 2019
Time: 10am – 1pm
Where: Farmers & Markers Market, cSPACE King Edward, 1721 29 Avenue SW, Marda Loop
https://engage1800.com/
Date: Saturday, February 09, 2019
Time: 10am – 1pm
Where: Farmers & Markers Market, cSPACE King Edward, 1721 29 Avenue SW, Marda Loop
Platopos
Active Member
Yeah, you're right, it's not something that should necessarily be associated with the street retail section of 17th ave, but this is quite far down from where the street retail corridor on both sides ends and is also not a very pedestrian traffic area.
Silence&Motion
Senior Member
Every time a city is having major issues with a federally regulated agency I’m reminded of the time that Mayor Daley sent bulldozers in the middle of the night to rip up the runway at Meigs Field airport. Maybe that’s the solution to get the railway rerouted out of downtown. 
haltcatchfire
Senior Member
I wish it was something that wasn’t associated with Calgary.
Mull
Active Member
Why the hate on it?