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10th and 2nd already suck today. We're not ruining anything: Am I cherry picking the bad? Yes. But it's already a dark+narrow concrete corridor nobody would choose to walk down again if they discover the more vibrant streets nearby (had to pick an old date for when the roads weren't...

But I thought the first part of that (the whole not collapsing thing) wasn't part of the $300M? But it sounds like they wouldn't do all of the other digging for egress/elevators/etc until later? Can anyone ELI5 how the worst case tunnel scenario would play out? Is it kinda like they'd be in...

That makes sense. Still seems...kinda nuts? Escalators, elevators, proper HVAC, lighting, mezzanine level, platforms...I'm sure I'm missing dozens of things, but how the hell do you get to $300M? And at that price tag, how does that ever get built in the future ahead of pretty much any other...

Those numbers seem a little funny, too. Not building a deep(ish?) station = $300M less for doing nothing Building a surface station instead of a shallow station = $400M less for still doing something...

I'm still trying to make sense of the city's cost comparisons. City plan involved a smaller (temporary?) MSF in Millican. Does the $700M needed to get to Sheppard also include the full size MSF instead of the small one? Or is it just the extra stations, and the full size MSF would still be...

Only skimmed a bit so far, but I'm pretty impressed with how open and creative they were. Even the idea I've suggested before to interline the red line underpass tunnel (Option 7)

I've wondered about this before and haven't been able to find precise details as its confusing because the feds keep re-announcing the same Public Transit Fund idea, but I'm not sure that it actually has to go through politicians at this point. I think it just needs to pass a certain score card...

I wonder if 4th-Shepard is enough to unlock the federal funding?

Yes I understand the plan. I just don't understand why it will suddenly start working out 1. One bus is cheaper to run that one train. The train wasn't going to be terribly frequent. If we get to the point of needing more bus frequency, that's a success! One fairly full bus every 5 minutes is...

Agree to disagree I guess. I don't doubt that it would eventually be added on to - at the expense of all other priorities. I just don't see how that process will become any smoother. Even with an NDP gov't (hope), I don't think we can count on this being an immediate/top priority for them...

Ooph. That would mean a three seat ride for the foreseeable future, and four seats if transferring to 7th! Fully agreed on the DT bus plan, but I think it would be incredibly foolish to build any kind of 'foundation' that is so heavily reliant on future expansion at this point. We are on the...

...and then what? Hope is not a plan, and I can't conceive any plan for the next steps that don't start with the word hope...

At this point I think you have to consider the provincial funding dead and do what you can to secure as much of the federal funding as you can and build anything productive. Which means BRT, because it would be incredibly foolish to build an LRT entirely predicated on future extensions in this...

Ooph. This doesn't make me feel any better about the city's stub line, either. So...how does Eau Claire-Shepard with a tunnel cost $300M less than 7th-Shepard elevated? WTF?

Sunk cost fallacy. Pay cancellation fee. Or re-sell them. Or take delivery and get your ass in gear for the north. We know we've spent about $2B. There is $3B funding to be unlocked, but we can only count on half of that. If you can get the feds on board, this is actually the best Fuck-you...

I'm still on team busway, too. I think you just figure out a full BRT solution for the heart of downtown that also serves yellow/purple/301/etc. Tons of options for that, but I'd look at 1st SW as transit only N-S connection and then 6th and probably 9th. Or maybe its 6th and 10th/11th And of...

Press conference from Gondek (and other councillors?) on Green Line: https://calgary.ctvnews.ca/video?clipId=375756

This goes back to my concern that elevated was never given a serious second look, even in the midst of absurd truncation. I get that the city is in a weird place here on messaging, but it doesn't sit right for them to say "there are too many unanswered questions". If they didn't already have the...

This doesn't clear CPKC by enough and would mean going through like seven +15s. Easier to just go over (but ideally through the one +30)

Obligatory the UCP are monstrous idiots. But the city undercuts its claims of having done rigorous study and decision making in selecting the tunnel by now suggesting they have no idea how elevated will actually work. Did they ever give it a fair shake, or not? A while ago I dug into the '5...