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    Green Line LRT | ?m | ?s | Calgary Transit

    And common consequences of these projects going over-budget has been cutting back on the usefulness of route, and/or the reduction of other transit services to pay for them. You can see that in the numerous projects in the US where LRT is built but overall ridership declines (as bus service is...
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    Green Line LRT | ?m | ?s | Calgary Transit

    If the Green Line does get delayed, or stopped, it won't be because of people like Jim Gray or the UCP Government, it'll be because of the continuing terrible management of the Green Line project. The Green Line Technical and Risk Committee just reported the following: The Green Line is only...
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    Green Line LRT | ?m | ?s | Calgary Transit

    Back in 2016 when Council was first deciding on how to get into downtown, the options and costs were presented. Using the Centre Street Bridge (Option A) wasn't much cheaper than using a new bridge (Option E) and that option even included an underground station at 16th Avenue. A high-level...
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    Green Line LRT | ?m | ?s | Calgary Transit

    The Province's funding changes may be the straw that's currently breaking the Green Line's back but all of its trouble really stem from it going more than $3B over budget for the full-line. Since the decision to use Shepard for the yard appears to be unassailable, then any cost savings have to...
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    Green Line LRT | ?m | ?s | Calgary Transit

    That was the idea of Option E back when they were deciding on how to get into Downtown. But if you go to https://engage.calgary.ca/greenline, it states for Centre Street N: "The key change for Centre Street N include a surface alignment up the middle of Centre Street with a surface station...
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    Green Line LRT | ?m | ?s | Calgary Transit

    I've read that 16th Ave is expected to have 11K riders/day which is a pretty substantial portion considering the whole of Phase 1 is only expecting 65K/day at most. And why is the NC LRT a struggle; it has by far the highest bus ridership corridor left in the City, has the most...
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    Green Line LRT | ?m | ?s | Calgary Transit

    Not if you want a massive political fight. Stopping there all but guarantees that any future money will go to the SE (and other lines) and NC LRT will never be built.
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    Green Line LRT | ?m | ?s | Calgary Transit

    The problem is that it's not a bit more money, and where previous choices made to build the Green Line "properly" has already increase its construction costs to upwards of $9 billion. The City can no longer afford to build the Green Line properly, it probably can't even afford to build it...
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    Green Line LRT | ?m | ?s | Calgary Transit

    This might have merit if the City hadn't also admitted the problems with downtown at the same time; the latest in a string of budget overruns, delays and missed promises.
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    Green Line LRT | ?m | ?s | Calgary Transit

    Those are not the problem, they are symptoms (or reactions) to the real problem, which is the continuing increase in the cost of the Green Line. This was the Green Line (late 2015) that was sold to politicians and the public: It was great; if the City could just find that money, it could...
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    Green Line LRT | ?m | ?s | Calgary Transit

    Sure, but Chu shouldn't be the only one blamed. He didn't push hard for it, but the Green Line was sold as a project where substantial portions of both the NC and SE were going to be built (and where in earlier posts, I showed the City used reasons from the NC as reasons to build the Green...
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    Green Line LRT | ?m | ?s | Calgary Transit

    At the May 2017 meeting, Mayor Nenshi asks Fabiola MacIntyre, at 8:46:22 of the video, about sites in the North and she confirms that it could fit at Aurora Business Park (by 96th Ave)...
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    Green Line LRT | ?m | ?s | Calgary Transit

    I think this is the big problem, where the City previously never truly decided about which was more important (though Route Ahead had the NC LRT slightly ahead), and which they were able to avoid by thinking the Green Line could be built all at once. But in 2017, when it became apparent that...
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    Green Line LRT | ?m | ?s | Calgary Transit

    Yes, I think based on the arguments for presented for doing the Green Line that it makes more sense and follows the previous successful LRT practices to go North first. The SE IMO is also easier to build out in smaller extensions (if you don't need to reach the Shepard for the maintenance...
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    Green Line LRT | ?m | ?s | Calgary Transit

    Estimated at the equivalent of 6000 cars: https://pub-calgary.escribemeetings.com/filestream.ashx?DocumentId=13866 But should LRT even try to compete with cars, or should it replace overcrowded buses? Hoping to gain ridership using expensive LRT in areas where there aren't any significant...
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    Green Line LRT | ?m | ?s | Calgary Transit

    That was a major argument for skipping BRT and going to LRT directly.... But it was made on behalf of the NC. But with the massive cost overruns and the trouble in the DT, 15 years from now North of Beddington Trail communities probably won't have any LRT, or even significant transit service...
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    Green Line LRT | ?m | ?s | Calgary Transit

    That plan didn't work out very well for Honolulu: https://www.staradvertiser.com/2019/01/10/breaking-news/prematurely-awarded-contracts-increased-rail-cost-by-354-million-auditor-says/ Enough to justify $2B of rail? Doubtful, given how little transit ridership there is currently in the SE and...
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    Green Line LRT | ?m | ?s | Calgary Transit

    But the South line had high ridership to begin with. It would be more comparable if 40 years ago, the NE line was built first, all the way to Oliver Bowen while the South waited. And what kind of ridership do you think a SE line that starts at Shepard and ends at 4 Street SE with no downtown...

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