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    Green Line LRT | ?m | ?s | Calgary Transit

    It may be possible but I think the concept of an independent NCLRT coming into DT on the Centre Street Bridge is relatively new and probably only looked at a high-level. The previous designs using Centre Street would go west around 3rd Ave in order to eventually link with the SELRT. There likely...
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    Green Line LRT | ?m | ?s | Calgary Transit

    It could be a "situating the appreciation" type review in order to get the favored option look good and selected. That seems to have happened a lot with the Green Line. But they had mentioned in 2019 that not connecting the two line would only cause a modest loss of long-term ridership. With...
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    Green Line LRT | ?m | ?s | Calgary Transit

    For the elevated line discussion, from reading the Alignment Options document from 2020 it appears that for the non-tunnel options they don't require NC and SE to connect which would simply things a lot. The elevated option presented won't even have the SE line cross the CPR tracks...
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    Green Line LRT | ?m | ?s | Calgary Transit

    The City's plan after the 2020 revision was also to build to the suburban part first. Stage 1 had been split into three parts, and they were going to build the part from Shepard to 4 Street first because it was "shovel-ready"...
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    Green Line LRT | ?m | ?s | Calgary Transit

    I guess that's the unfortunate consequence of the Green Line taking up all the attention and money for the last decade and an unwillingness for Council to put a limit on just how expensive it could get. And even if Stage 1 is built, you still need billions of dollars to get it useful and where...
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    Green Line LRT | ?m | ?s | Calgary Transit

    There was a second tax cut that the City also kept, so it's about $75M/year now and were dedicated for at least 30 years to the Green Line. I'd expect they'll be used to pay off the remaining debt for the Green Line project and then be a funding source for future transit projects.
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    Green Line LRT | ?m | ?s | Calgary Transit

    What's wrong with user pay? Drivers are willing to pay the capital and operating costs for their vehicles, are transit users willing to pay 3-4X the fare to do the same? Even for relatively successful Calgary Transit, fare revenues currently only account for about 42% of operating costs and 0%...
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    Green Line LRT | ?m | ?s | Calgary Transit

    There's plenty of blame to go around, but I don't think the claim that the UCP review resulted in a 2-year delay holds up to scrutiny. Calgary Council only approved the new plan in June 2020, the UCP approved it in July 2021. But at that same time, the Green Line board was being setup and the...
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    Calgary Transit

    Yeah, that's a really high frequency. Green Line Stage 1 when it was still 16th-Shepard and an expected daily ridership of 55K-65K only ordered enough LRVs for 8 minute headways.
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    Green Line LRT | ?m | ?s | Calgary Transit

    RouteAhead documents provide more details about costs and possible ridership increases: https://pub-calgary.escribemeetings.com/filestream.ashx?DocumentId=147365 https://pub-calgary.escribemeetings.com/filestream.ashx?DocumentId=227726 But there isn't any plans for the Purple Line to extend...
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    Green Line LRT | ?m | ?s | Calgary Transit

    Even with 2-car trains, the stations will be too long to not block some intersections. Previously when the Green Line was specified to use up to 3-car trains, left turns were only going to be allowed at 7, 9, 10 and 12 Ave N for 2020 version of Stage 1...
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    Green Line LRT | ?m | ?s | Calgary Transit

    But at lot of the slowness also comes from having many stations close together, requiring more stops and total dwell time and forcing the train to constantly accelerate and decelerate. Even with a tunnel, if it had to stop every 500 m a train wouldn't be all that fast. The idea is only back...
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    Green Line LRT | ?m | ?s | Calgary Transit

    However, for the time being the Ctrain is limited to 3-cars due to upgrades at Haysboro and it doesn't appear that even during rush hour that the trains are overloaded despite record monthly ridership numbers. I think usage is now less concentrated going to DT, more spread out through the day...
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    Green Line LRT | ?m | ?s | Calgary Transit

    Was it actually possible to make that decision in 2017? Paul Giannelia wasn't hired until March 2018 and at his first appearance at Council, he had a timeline of Q1 2019 for the RFP. https://pub-calgary.escribemeetings.com/filestream.ashx?DocumentId=121431 And even in October 2018, a...
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    Green Line LRT | ?m | ?s | Calgary Transit

    The versions before 2020 had the 4 St station above-ground. Perhaps after changing Eau Claire to 16th from a tunnel to bridge+at-grade, they now had a "surplus" itching in their pockets that they had to immediately spend. With the Green Line now being unfunded by at least $8B, there's...
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    Green Line LRT | ?m | ?s | Calgary Transit

    Yeah, I don't think there were any officially enumerated list of objectives and how important they were. You only had business case documents (https://www.calgary.ca/content/dam/www/green-line/documents/GL-Business-Case-2016.pdf) and presentations listing the general benefits and the need...
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    Green Line LRT | ?m | ?s | Calgary Transit

    The Green Line has a segment that's pretty desolate though and should be a lot of cheaper. Anybody want to guess at how the split is now between the expensive DT and east of 4 Street? Stage 1 is now $5.8B (not including financing charge) so the 2.4 km DT might be around $3.5B? In 2019 this was...
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    Green Line LRT | ?m | ?s | Calgary Transit

    Looking at the Google maps of Highfield, it's a pretty small plot and probably can't maintain and store much more than the dozen or so cars they only need for the new Stage 1.
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    Green Line LRT | ?m | ?s | Calgary Transit

    But that's for over 3 million passenger-trips a day, enabling travel to all parts of the city and even beyond. Green Line Stage 1 will be lucky to get the claimed 32K trips/day and will have little to no benefit to 95% of the population.
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    Green Line LRT | ?m | ?s | Calgary Transit

    During the height of the public bickering, the Green Line still only claimed that each month of delay added $1.5M to the capital costs, not the $100+M we have seen. https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/green-line-lrt-construction-delayed-1.5971815

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