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Fairmont Hotel | ?m | ?s | Truman

To go back to the beginning... It is easy to see this being here.

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  • 225-key Fairmont hotel slated to open in Q4 2031 (tower)
  • Mixed-use development
  • Signature spa and wellness offering (podium?)
  • Meetings and events program (podium?)
  • 100 luxury branded residences (tower)
The design concept will be announced, and the regulatory approvals process will be initiated in Q1 of 2026.

The development won't be insignificant but wouldn't need to be too tall. The Hampton that just opened is 151 rooms over 16 floors but that is a pretty small floor plate. Stampede Park Hotel is 320 rooms over 13 floors. With a larger floor plate available to them here then the Hampton property it isn't hard to see how this wouldn't have to be that tall.

And Q1 ends this month so I assume we'll hear soon, maybe not a Friday the 13th announcement you want to make. Wait, just realized Stampede Park Hotel is 13 floors so maybe they are not suppositious.
 
CalgaryTiger said:
To go back to the beginning... It is easy to see this being here.

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  • 225-key Fairmont hotel slated to open in Q4 2031 (tower)
  • Mixed-use development
  • Signature spa and wellness offering (podium?)
  • Meetings and events program (podium?)
  • 100 luxury branded residences (tower)
The design concept will be announced, and the regulatory approvals process will be initiated in Q1 of 2026.

The development won't be insignificant but wouldn't need to be too tall. The Hampton that just opened is 151 rooms over 16 floors but that is a pretty small floor plate. Stampede Park Hotel is 320 rooms over 13 floors. With a larger floor plate available to them here then the Hampton property it isn't hard to see how this wouldn't have to be that tall.

And Q1 ends this month so I assume we'll hear soon, maybe not a Friday the 13th announcement you want to make. Wait, just realized Stampede Park Hotel is 13 floors so maybe they are not suppositious.
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12 stories seems a bit light for a "mixed use" designation...unless they're putting heavy weight on the inevitable starbucks
 
Albertasaurus said:
I heard a rumor from a reliable source that we should manage our expectations, at least as far as height is concerned. Hearing a dozen or so floors. Hopefully the design will make up for lack of height if that turns out to be true.
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Is it possible this could be two buildings around 15-20 floors? One hotel tower at 20 floors, and a residential building around 25 floors.
 
Albertasaurus said:
I heard a rumor from a reliable source that we should manage our expectations, at least as far as height is concerned. Hearing a dozen or so floors. Hopefully the design will make up for lack of height if that turns out to be true.
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Taller would have been cool, but the Beltline could use more low rise mixed in. A hotel’s perfect for it. I’m surprised they can fit 325 units into 12 floors on a parcel that size.
 
Beltline_B said:
At 325 units total including 100 being rental residential units I will put my money on 27-33 floors.
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This + the fact that it's a brand as luxury as Fairmont? They're gonna want a ridiculous amount of amenities, high ceilings, large rooms.
If the height to unit ratio is on par, or higher than Stampede Station's (0.70m per unit+key - not ideal to combine these, but it's okay given the proportion of units and keys is about the same for SS as it is here)
325u x 0.7mpu = 227.5m
That's a total height struggling to fit within 18 storeys even if it's 4m average floor-to-ceiling across 3 buildings.

But, if it's more on par with the Stampede Park hotel, which is 320 keys (0.18mpk), and more of a slab-like floorplate, then we're gonna see something in the realm of 60m / 14s.
Though I really struggle to see how Fairmont units would fit at the same ratio as the Marriott, and how 100 branded residences would fit at the same ratio as keys.

The only way this is within the realm of a dozen storeys is if there's three buildings, or we're getting some kind of giant slab, and even that is inching closer to 2 dozen than it is 1 dozen
Perhaps just the hotel part could be fit within a dozen storeys, in a mid-rise slab that is taking up the entire Singapore Sam's / Strip Mall site, but even that is a cram, and then there would be close to another dozen stories on top for a 100 unit tower!

The math doesn't seem to work out unless the specs have changed - but someone smarter than me would do well to cross-reference FARs and see what's possible on the Singapore Sam's site - or perhaps even something like the FlixBus terminal, if we're still unsure exactly where this is going
 
TooBizzy said:
This + the fact that it's a brand as luxury as Fairmont? They're gonna want a ridiculous amount of amenities, high ceilings, large rooms.
If the height to unit ratio is on par, or higher than Stampede Station's (0.70m per unit+key - not ideal to combine these, but it's okay given the proportion of units and keys is about the same for SS as it is here)
325u x 0.7mpu = 227.5m
That's a total height struggling to fit within 18 storeys even if it's 4m average floor-to-ceiling across 3 buildings.

But, if it's more on par with the Stampede Park hotel, which is 320 keys (0.18mpk), and more of a slab-like floorplate, then we're gonna see something in the realm of 60m / 14s.
Though I really struggle to see how Fairmont units would fit at the same ratio as the Marriott, and how 100 branded residences would fit at the same ratio as keys.

The only way this is within the realm of a dozen storeys is if there's three buildings, or we're getting some kind of giant slab, and even that is inching closer to 2 dozen than it is 1 dozen
Perhaps just the hotel part could be fit within a dozen storeys, in a mid-rise slab that is taking up the entire Singapore Sam's / Strip Mall site, but even that is a cram, and then there would be close to another dozen stories on top for a 100 unit tower!

The math doesn't seem to work out unless the specs have changed - but someone smarter than me would do well to cross-reference FARs and see what's possible on the Singapore Sam's site - or perhaps even something like the FlixBus terminal, if we're still unsure exactly where this is going
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The Stampede Park hotel is a much wider floorplate. A easy comparison is Fairmont Pacific Rim, 44 floors, 140m. 377 hotel rooms (0-22) and 175 condo units (22-44). Fitting 325 units in 18--20 floors shouldn't be a problem. Hotel rooms are actually much smaller than people think. The standard rooms (vast majority) at Fairmont Pacific Rim is 398 sqft, the Park Hyatt in Toronto (similar level) is 350 and the JW in Edmonton is 271 sqft.
The branded residences are very hard to ballpark because they could be studio/1bed or 1000sqft luxury condos. But based on Truman's track record and demand for luxury condos generally, they're probably on the smaller side.

Side note: It's crazy to me Fairmont built a 44 storey building, opening on Feb 4, 2010, in Vancouver of all places.
 
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