Urban Development and Proposals Discussion

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Big announcement out of Stampede/CMLC this morning. Looks like the outdoor amphitheater is the intended use of the Saddledome lot.

Calgary Stampede Master Plan Update | The C+E | Calgary Municipal Land Corporation

Responding to growing development momentum, the updated master plan expands Stampede Park’s capacity as a year-round gathering place for the community.

www.calgarymlc.ca

 

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[YYCInfraObserver]

This would be excellent to come to fruition.

 

[jmarchy]

No stadium space here, McMahon haters despair.

Love the amphitheatre! Hope that is close to top of the list.

 

[Tothewest]

No stadium space here, McMahon haters despair.

Love the amphitheatre! Hope that is close to top of the list.

Well, one could certainly interpret the grandstand and stadium expansion to "enable expanded programming"...as potentially finding a way to make it a true stadium??

Awesome plan overall, the Amphitheatre being a more structured replacement for the coca cola stage...but more importantly allowing for street facing development. Nothing really earth shattering here, but atleast the logic is now put on paper

Sequence wise, Saddledome comes down first, which allows for a proper street grid shape, to allow for expanded space for the Ag Building. Wonder what role CSEC would play in the live venue space on site, if they have a "first right" with Stampede to operate it. Would otherwise lead to potential conflicting programming which hurts both

 

[Urban_Views]

The Masterplan looks great so far, lots of interesting elements within those renders. It looks like an audience member would be able to see the skyline past the stage of the amphitheatre. The turf field is a nice addition of greenspace.

 

[blue12]

Very curious what this "Stampede Gateway" development is (if it's anything more than just a concept yet), as well as the Big Four replacement that they labelled as "multi-purpose venue". For this new venue I really hope they don't cut corners and make it just a fancy modern box, the BMO Centre expansion across the street does set a pretty high standard. Interested to see how this plays out over the next handful of years.

 

[CBBarnett]

The Masterplan looks great so far, lots of interesting elements within those renders. It looks like an audience member would be able to see the skyline past the stage of the amphitheatre. The turf field is a nice addition of greenspace.

Cautiously optimistic - I am actually kind of shocked they convinced the Stampede to get rid of so much asphalt. It does seem they really want to catch the Stampede up to other big cities with proper, high quality entertainment and exhibition district rather than a collection of random event builds in mostly empty parking lots.

That amphitheatre would be really cool - it looks like they are using the PNE Amphitheatre as a placeholder which is under construction in Vancouver right now:

 

[kora]

In other development news, First on Seventeenth is launching their project website today. https://firstonseventeenth.com/

Absolutely love how the neglected east side of 17th Avenue, east of 4 Street, is finally reaching its potential after several long decades.

 

[Roaring Flames]

It'll be interesting to see what they mean by a Multi-purpose venue. In the Stampede's news release they have it defined as:

"Multipurpose Venue: A new modernized multipurpose venue intended to replace The Big Four Building and enable programming flexibility to service the growing music and event needs on Stampede Park."

Does that mean a new flat event space that can host small concerts and events? Or does it mean a small arena type venue?

 

[Tothewest]

It'll be interesting to see what they mean by a Multi-purpose venue. In the Stampede's news release they have it defined as:

Does that mean a new flat event space that can host small concerts and events? Or does it mean a small arena type venue?

I would assume an open free-span building...large than the individual halls at the older BMO. If Calgary every bid again on olympics, could potentially be a temporary 6-7k venue for hockey or curling or something.

Absolutely love how the neglected east side of 17th Avenue, east of 4 Street, is finally reaching its potential after several long decades.

Literally, literally the only thing now holding back east 17th is Alpha house. Wild to me that between east village and rivers, both civic priorities for development, BOTH contain a shelter (thus drugs, homeless, ect...). Make it make sense

 

[darwink]

It'll be interesting to see what they mean by a Multi-purpose venue. In the Stampede's news release they have it defined as:

Does that mean a new flat event space that can host small concerts and events? Or does it mean a small arena type venue?

I imagine something like this in Edmonton, perhaps a bit larger, in the 6000 range.

Edmonton EXPO Centre Arena Mid-Sized Arena - Edmonton EXPO Centre

Edmonton EXPO Centre Arena is Edmonton’s only mid-sized arena with tiered seating and LED sport lighting for sport and entertainment events.

edmontonexpocentre.com

 

[Roaring Flames]

Man, something like that would be the perfect size to host the Calgary Surge and maybe the Hitman

 

[trtcttc]

So basically a Stampede Corral replacement. We have a few in the 2000 range, WinSport, Max Bell, David Bauer, but nothing in that 6-10k range.

 

[trtcttc]

“We talked about the Stampeders, and I said, ‘The stadium has passed its shelf life.’ I don’t think that’s a surprise to anybody, and the reality is that we only play there 10 games a year, and so it has to be a stadium that is going to be, in my opinion, anyway, city-led,” he said.

Calgary Stampede master plan could spell the long, slow end for McMahon Stadium - LiveWire Calgary

One of the biggest moments of pause during the Calgary’s Stampede’s announcement of its new 20-year master plan was the mention of a potential new home for the CFL’s Calgary Stampeders. During the presentation of the ambitious park redevelopment, Calgary Stampede CEO Joel Cowley described a...

livewirecalgary.com

If Farkas has a political bone in his body, he'd run far away from any public funding for this.