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Go Elevated or try for Underground?

  • Work with the province and go with the Elevated option

    Votes: 66 66.7%

  • Try another approach and go for Underground option

    Votes: 29 29.3%

  • Cancel it altogether

    Votes: 1 1.0%

  • Go with a BRT solution

    Votes: 3 3.0%
  • Total voters
    99
whatchyyc said:
CT just don't have enough train cars to have very many 4 car trains with the frequencies that are being run, afaik the capacity of the system is the highest it's ever been even with 3 car trains. There's been a handful of new cars delivered but they haven't been put into service yet because of commissioning issues, and a lot of these will just replace dead U2s. There's an option order for a lot more but I don't know if that's been funded yet. Edit: The order is for a total of 40 LRVs to arrive by the end of 2027, the first 14 cars are nearly all delivered
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So CT has paid for 40 new LRVs? Or they have an option to get up to 40 but have only paid for 14 so far?
 
Hopefully they get most of that pre-CUSMA renegotiation. Who knows what's going to happen to tariffs after, especially a product with high steel content. The tariffs are driven by the US, but if they levy it on us, we'll inevitably have to do something in response.
 
trtcttc said:
Hopefully they get most of that pre-CUSMA renegotiation. Who knows what's going to happen to tariffs after, especially a product with high steel content. The tariffs are driven by the US, but if they levy it on us, we'll inevitably have to do something in response.
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Where are these being built? I'd be more worried about FX fluctations than tarrifs
 
DougB said:
Where are these being built? I'd be more worried about FX fluctations than tarrifs
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Usually FX hedging is built into the transaction, either by the city itself, whatever the USA's equivalent of export finance is, or the vendor.

The export finance group also typically offers insurance as part of the finance package, which guards against government policy moves.

Given the long standing relationship between CT and Siemens, I bet they have this down.
 
The Series 10/11 order has been in the works for a very long time now but I'll be interested to see what happens next for the high floor fleet. Green Line didn't even have Siemens make the RFP (to be fair their offering probably sucked) and Edmonton has gone with Hyundai-Rotem again for their new trains
 
CalgaryTiger said:
Sure, it took us awhile to get here but at least we're not Ottawa.

www.ctvnews.ca

Eastern LRT service remains offline Thursday after wires snap in freezing rain

Service on the eastern leg of O-Train Line 1 remains offline Thursday morning following an incident on the line near Lees Station on Wednesday.
www.ctvnews.ca www.ctvnews.ca
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Good grief, that O-train is still a complete disaster, and its been open for years already. Ottawa has really been a lesson in "what not to do" in just about every aspect of their LRT system.
 
Albertasaurus said:
Good grief, that O-train is still a complete disaster, and its been open for years already. Ottawa has really been a lesson in "what not to do" in just about every aspect of their LRT system.
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While we complain about lack of 4 car trains, Otrain is running single car trains. I thought part of it was bad luck with a new trainset for their issues early on but seeing Finch West having no train related issues and OC Transpo / RTG still can't run an LRT years after opening.
 
trtcttc said:
While we complain about lack of 4 car trains, Otrain is running single car trains. I thought part of it was bad luck with a new trainset for their issues early on but seeing Finch West having no train related issues and OC Transpo / RTG still can't run an LRT years after opening.
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I lived in Ottawa for a while and I took their LRT precursor, the diesel powered light rail Line 2. It was successful and I never heard of any problems. I don't know how electrification went so horribly wrong in Ottawa when it works so well in cold-weather Edmonton and Calgary.
 
kora said:
I lived in Ottawa for a while and I took their LRT precursor, the diesel powered light rail Line 2. It was successful and I never heard of any problems. I don't know how electrification went so horribly wrong in Ottawa when it works so well in cold-weather Edmonton and Calgary.
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Line 2 is still running with diesel. Line 1/Confederation is a brand new line. They ordered a new vehicle, Citadis Spirit, which is Alstom's extremely popular Citadis LRT adopted to North American standards. Thoughts were that being the first operator of a new vehicle would come with some teething issues and is totally expected, but by now, it's just incompetence. There's also no fundamental issues with the cars considering Toronto runs them on the Finch W LRT perfectly fine so far.
 
trtcttc said:
Line 2 is still running with diesel. Line 1/Confederation is a brand new line. They ordered a new vehicle, Citadis Spirit, which is Alstom's extremely popular Citadis LRT adopted to North American standards. Thoughts were that being the first operator of a new vehicle would come with some teething issues and is totally expected, but by now, it's just incompetence. There's also no fundamental issues with the cars considering Toronto runs them on the Finch W LRT perfectly fine so far.
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"Perfectly fine" is a stretch: https://stevemunro.ca/2026/02/24/line-6-finch-west-delays-january-2026-update/ The Line 6 LRV's have been having semi-frequent mechanical-related delays of various forms. (However, Alstom is definitely not the only one at fault for Ottawa's woes; the entire Confederation Line appears to be have been poorly designed and poorly built).
 
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