IMO that patio is not a replacement - it's shady (south side of the street), and too small.
534 17 Ave SW | 24m | 7s | Strategic Group | Manu Chugh
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Mountain Man
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Agreed, that patio was always cold when I sat on it. Aside from July and August when you want shade, it was always dead.
cameronhowe
Active Member
In general, I just think the vibes won't translate. It will be the same issue that happened when they relocated The Unicorn.
CalgaryTiger
Senior Member
These are good points, I was just struggling to think of a parcel on 17th with south exposure.
O-tac
Senior Member
I thought the building that The Ship was in is owned by Arlington Street and was recently renovated?
Edit: Nevermind. I see this is a separate building. For some reason I remembered it being one big parcel. So is the plan to replace both the office building and the small brick apartments?
Edit: Nevermind. I see this is a separate building. For some reason I remembered it being one big parcel. So is the plan to replace both the office building and the small brick apartments?
Mountain Man
Senior Member
ASI owns the building next door with National in it.
I wonder if that big tree in front of the Ship will come down...
I wonder if that big tree in front of the Ship will come down...
potatopizzafan
Active Member
I believe the plan is to replace the existing brick apartment building, then add a couple floors to the existing office building the ship is in, converting the office floors to apartmentsI thought the building that The Ship was in is owned by Arlington Street and was recently renovated?
Edit: Nevermind. I see this is a separate building. For some reason I remembered it being one big parcel. So is the plan to replace both the office building and the small brick apartments?
It looks like the plan is to renovate/convert the office building at 534 (leaving untouched the ground floor where the Ship is), and tear down/rebuild the little apartment building at 532.
Cowtown
Senior Member
The ship will have to tone down the live music, but at least it’ll be selling beer and pub food and the patio will remain. The patio is one of the main draws there.
Mountain Man
Senior Member
The patio will be incompatible with the units above, patios are loud and residents will complain.
outoftheice
Senior Member
Fairly certain this building will be a rental building. Any noise concerns can be taken care of through a 1 paragraph addition to any rental lease saying the tenants acknowledge they will be exposed to noise from the patio and the bar downstairs. Problem solved. For people who really hate it, they don't have to renew their lease.
The Pig & Duke is on the ground floor of a rental building in the Beltline and has a busy patio in the summer. Mugs Pub is on the ground floor of a condo building in the Beltline and has live music a couple nights per week. These places have existed for years with zero issues.
I love the Ship but I think they are making a way bigger deal about this than is necessary... especially since the building can be designed with their needs in mind right from the start and the transient nature of rental buildings will prevent concerns from building over time.
The Pig & Duke is on the ground floor of a rental building in the Beltline and has a busy patio in the summer. Mugs Pub is on the ground floor of a condo building in the Beltline and has live music a couple nights per week. These places have existed for years with zero issues.
I love the Ship but I think they are making a way bigger deal about this than is necessary... especially since the building can be designed with their needs in mind right from the start and the transient nature of rental buildings will prevent concerns from building over time.
cameronhowe
Active Member
Typically I would agree but knowing that Strategic is leading this, I think the Ship's concerns are valid and I wouldn't leave anything open to interpretation.
whatchyyc
Active Member
Is there something actually wrong with Strategic or are we all just hung up on the conversion of a 75 year old building being very slow?
cameronhowe
Active Member
Perhaps I am a little biased as my MIL resided in one of their buildings for quite a few years and I saw how they managed their property. Let's just say, they would be the poster child for slumlord operations.
Mountain Man
Senior Member
Strategic are super shady, I've worked with them on a few projects and always hated it. They are in it to make money first and foremost, and will cut corners wherever they can to ensure they meet their profit targets. Why do you think someone tried to murder their CEO?